Solace Healing cool down

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  1. See if a UFE aegis will fight you...unless your not UFE
     
  2. I am, I have battled Alfa Don is plays in his aegis and he wins 2 out of 3 times, also, if you find yourself in a battle with 2 ufe aegis, vs 2 ufe solace, again the aegis will win. I will say, some of it does depend on ur config. BUt defeating a UFE that has the special design is very very difficult.
     
  3. Seraphim

    Seraphim User

    If a UFE Solace fights a UFE aegis, the fight wont last long enough for aegis abilities to be used more than once.

    Few things.

    Solace can instantly rep a maximum of 8 players including yourself regardless of which map they're in so long as they are in the same group. (25% of their total hull, 50% of your total hull)

    Aegis can rep a maximum of 8 Players including yourself at a steady rate of 20,000 per second for a short duration so long as the players are located within the radius of the repair beacon.

    Aegis can repair a single player by 40,000 per second whilst repairing itself by 20,000 per second steadily for a short duration so long as the player is in the same clan, allied clan or same group and are present at the same location.

    Aegis can restore a single players shield by 25,000 per second whilst restoring 15,000 per second to itself steadily for a short duration so long as the player is in the same clan, allied clan or same group and are present at the same location.

    Indicates an important factor.
    Indicates benefit to oneself.
    Indicates benefit for others.
    Indicates a neutral point. (Can be bad and good)


    Overall when it comes to a fight, especially between stronger players, damage received/dealt is bound to be high. What matters then is not a long term repair. But an instant repair to keep up the attack. A repair of a mere 20,000 per second barely stands when fighting opponents who can deal more damage in one strike than you can repair in 3 seconds.

    A goliath + solace costs more and has a higher cooldown for its ability and why not?
    A goliath has more laser slots therefore more damage dealt during pvp.
    The design provides 10% bonus shield.

    So many more things to say but I'll keep this brief. Notice the bit for solace where I highlighted red. That isn't so much a bad thing than a good thing.
    Being in the same outfit is logical if you want to repair someone from afar. Plus you don't have to be near them and click them to see if they need a repair or not. So being in the group is good. The only bad thing is you can't repair someone who may be near you if they aren't in the outfit. (though you can easily invite them).

    For the aegis red bit regarding group its 50-50.
    It saves the effort of having to check by individually clicking each player to check their health but it's bad as whether or not they have low hp and whether or not you know. You still have to click on them to repair them. With the case of the beacon, they have to be in the group and nearby. With the solace they neither have to be nearby nor in the same map.

    Now a small scenario. An enemy is firing away at a player who's running to port.
    He's not in your outfit so a solace cannot do a thing but shoot the enemy. An aegis can't use it's beacon for the same reason so they can shoot the enemy too. If the victim isn't allied/same clan the aegis can't repair them. But lets be biased and say they are in an allied clan. So the aegis repairs him and he survives. Hooray.

    Point made. The aegis is more of a support ship than a fighter.

    edit: at first I was shocked at the cooldown time for a solace when I first got one (before aegis was born). But after using it a lot I learnt how resourceful it really is. Using the aegis abilities makes me lazy when fighting npcs (yes the aegis is better for npcs in my opinion), but using the solace gives that extra damage and shield as well as a reliable instant repair. It's saved me and a lot of players countless times. More so than my aegis has.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2014
  4. I see what you are saying, but do you think that the darn ability should take that long? in a 1 v 1 a ufe solace vs a UFE Aegis, the only thing that determines the winner is the config. And an aegis can rep its shield and hp at the same time, while a solace can only rep itself onces 75%. An Aegis can drop a pod at the same as either healing ability or Shield. This is what I mean when I say to an extent the solace is at a disadvantage, because despite the extra lasers, the solace does not have the 5% damage bonus, only a shield bonus. And if you are battling the new designed UFE Aegis, it is even that much more difficult.
    Im not talking about healing others in maps, because I am soley looking at 1 v 1s.
     
  5. Seraphim

    Seraphim User

    The design will shorten the repair duration of shield and direct Hp repair. It extends the beacon time. Ufes hit hard enough to almost nullify the repair aegis can do. The abilities help in the long run if you plan on hunting and need a quick repair whilst moving onwards but in a 1v1, a solace is better. (my opinion)
     
  6. ...what? If a fight takes more than 45 seconds you're doing something wrong. I've run aegis in pvp quite often and if you're fighting a ufe those rep pods are irrelevant most times.
    Solace cooldown is fine where it is. I'd say be glad it's not the 2 hours it used to be. It's not designed to heal all the time. That's what aegis is for.
     
  7. UFE Solace vs. UFE Aegis.
    Solace will always win (considering that both have full shields and HP)

    Summing up what Seraphim had said above...

    The Solace does an INSTANT repair, 153k HP (No HP Modifiers) to a max of 244.8k HP (No Saturn, but With all Hercules, Heart Formation and the 20% HP Booster).

    But the Aegis can rep a max of around 200k OVER TIME.

    Also, Solace deals much more damage than the Aegis can, practically nullifying the Aegis' repairing ability.

    PS: 15k shield repair is crap compared to what the Goliath's damage output is on it.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2014
  8. If you drop a skill design cool down lower for just 1 won't every argue about the others?
     
  9. Yup, CptCooter™ said that before.

    Besides, get a cooldown booster, it would be better then.
    We don't want the designs to be wayy overpowered than a no skill design.
     
  10. Great minds think alike and I agree with killer ;)
     
  11. If you have ADD :D use the aegis. If you are cool, calm, collected are not dumb to stick around :p use the solace for one click - do it again, but half more - I feel like am an instructor.

    I am not bothering to fight an aegis that won't move out of their rep'n area anyways, adios!
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2014
  12. Solace is the best design in my opinion
    You can do things you can't in an Aegis xD

    Before, I had the solace and I let some noob enemy think I was afk and he tried to pop me. He got me to 10k HP, then I hit the repair, switched to my running config and popped him xD

    Then he sent me in chat "Wut, you a --- im reportin u 4 repair hacks"
    This made me sooo happy the rest of the day xD
     
  13. KilerStreak it is 528k with herculs, 20% HP booster and hearth.
    to OP aegis can never win because goliath have 5 more lasers and shield desine 10%.
    put 5 shields on drones and 15 on ship with 30 lf-4's on that config and try 1 on 1 with ufe aegis and you will win every time.
    basicaly you get 200k to 300k more shields like that and you still have same or more dmg.
     
  14. I thought the percents go off the base HP (Original + Pilot Points) of 306,000.

    So you're saying that the HP goes of the previous, updated Hull value?

    I thought it adds on from the base HP.
     
  15. The solace repairs whatever 50% of what you started with boost or no boost. I hate boosters anyways, since they give out that you are in the area :eek:
     
  16. Na, it's of your total HP that you can repair to.
     
  17. It's 50 per cent of your FULL hp.
     
  18. Yes, we know, but the previous guy was saying that it's off your base HP, with or without boosters.
     
  19. Seraphim

    Seraphim User

    Close thread already? No further reason to keep it open.
     
  20. Close thread please, as seraphim said, no reason to continue it since it hasnt gotten one positive reply lmao.
     
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