SP-1 New Laser

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  1. Instead of having an LF-5 or MP-2 why not have a SP-1? Shield Penetration laser. Each equipped laser would deal 150 damage and also give 0.5% shield penetration. Having 35 of these lasers would give you a 17.5% shield penetration. When used with the moth drone formation, it adds up to only 37.5%, not terribly OP. I'm exactly sure how much each should cost, but it would have to be more than the LF-3. Maybe around 15,000 Uridium. And if it put into auction, it should go under the daily tab.

    Let me know if you like it,
    Thanks for reading! :)
     
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  2. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    What color would the laser b?
    What sound if different from the available guns would it have.
    If it were weaker like 100 it may help to balance it out since the penetration effect is kinda big.
    I like the idea, the price is right but would it b for farming or pvp as well?
     
  3. SPSAT99

    SPSAT99 User

    Ehhh.....How about just shield penetration dmg?
     
  4. Hmm, this idea is interesting but I don't know how to feel about it, I think it could possibly be an alright idea for the game though :).
     
  5. I had it planned for pvp. If UFE players used these to hunt they would sacrifice 50 damage per laser switching from LF-4s.
     
  6. Well, isnt that why they have the moth design?
     
  7. We have the heart formation, Saturn design, and Hercules drone design for hp. So why not have this and moth formation?
     
  8. It's a bit too OP IMO unless a counter was created rather like what I have in my thread. 37.5% may not look bad on paper but if your target is without shield mechanics, using all bo2 that's 57.5% penetration. E.g. Goli with 300k hp is toppling along with 315k stepped shields, his second shield config wouldn't be able to do anything as by the time his or her first shield comfort is gone he she has little or no health left. Even with shield mechanics that's what, 45.5% penetration still? Unless target uses crab and full shield mech he she is gonna be dead with a standard goli sepped shields config. This will make multiple ufe incredibly mad as they paid millions of uri to upgrade drones and generators for that 1.5 million shield configuration. With your idea, at best they would get to 1 mil shields in a Goliath before their hp is shot and for that reason this will not happen. Ufes are 80% or so (probably no I do not have a chart) of DO's income. Granted some pay nothing, but more pay thousands, If this is implemented they will lose hundreds or so of upgrades on shields. If they leave DO's main income is gone DO closed for good. Aka bigpoint isn't going to do anything that will do that. Aka this idea will not flow. Many look at just that stats of the item, but you need to look at what the items effect will have on the target. Unless bigpoint adds x shield absorption to level 16 shield generators to counter exactly what these lasers do, I can guarantee you this idea will not fly unless you nerf it or bigpoint wants this game in its grave.


    EDIT: sorry for wall of text. Also, I don't have anything against you OP I'm just stating my opinion no hard feelings
     
  9. I don't see this causing much of a problem. UFE's already have LF-4s, why would they switch back? If anything, they would spend more money to buy the new lasers.

    Besides, UFE's already pop others within 5 seconds. This wouldn't make that much of a change.
     
  10. Actually it would make a big change for those who tank. Anything more than 15 bo2 on a goli sepped is useless. Hell with this you may as well do everything with 15 bo2 and 15 7900s.
     
  11. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    I'm with angel on this one, moth has already destroyed tank configs as effective.
    What difference does it make for this gun to b introduced into this game as well?

    The way I see it, this makes a form of shield penetration available for more than just the ones that can afford moth in a PvP game.
    This idea actually brings a slight balance to the game that has been lacking since the introduction of moth.

    I was just wondering tho, when this gun is upgraded will it increase the damage or further increase the penetration?

    I hope if it's penetration that at level 16 it offers the same benefit as moth.
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2015
  12. Yes... Moth is already OP enough why not add more penetration for giggles and rage >_>
     
  13. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    To insure that not only moth owners have shield penetration options.
     
  14. Yes... Because getting 31 *presuming fe goli* of these lasers costing 465k uri is so much cheaper than moth

    It should be an either or situation. Moth disables these lasers, or you cannot activate moth with even 1 of these lasers on.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Feb 14, 2015
  15. SauronL

    SauronL User

    lol almost 40% not terribly OP , that would eat hp like ...
    imagine just dbl boosted and fully upgraded lf3s
     
  16. This is an interesting idea, but any new item makes me nervous, lets get over the last 6 or so updates first lolz. Seriously tho it is intriguing, but I think Foo showed the math why this is a little too OP. Perhaps the idea of the either or situation with moth would be the fair trade off, but now its getting kinda convoluted and ticky-tacky.
     
  17. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    I'm with fooj on the notion of either this item or moth may b used but not both.
     
  18. R3V3R4NT

    R3V3R4NT User

    Cool idea.
     
  19. Dreadlok

    Dreadlok User

    What say u Angel, are moth and these weapons compatible together.
     
  20. That or perhaps increased charge time for shooting? E.g. Laser description "SP-1" A strong laser, and though it may be lesser in damage to the LF-4, it has an increased shield penetration bonus. It also increases reload time of lasers by 1.5x, to allow the lasers to focus for the extra shield penetration" or something similar to that. Something. This needs something to dampen it otherwise it's too OP
     
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