[TEI] Assembly system unbalanced

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  1. USS-Aries

    USS-Aries User

    So today the assembly system was launched and the first major set back is it is unbalanced and is a level 11+ feature so the lower levels are left out in the cold again.

    Kristallin & Kristallon are found on the 6-X and 7-X maps and to enter the maps a minimum of level 11 is required. The ore that is dropped cannot be purchased in the shop thus any one below level 11 cannot craft any of the event items or do all the event missions. The only players that have any real benefit are the UFE's who have now been given a massive free lunch in cannon fodder. The idea of the system was to add balance back to the game and not to throw the balance out further. A little thought from the dev team as to map levels when adding new features and event missions would go a long way.
     
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  2. dude are you serious? -_-
     
  3. Paul69

    Paul69 User

    Not only is it unbalanced for player levels... on US4 it is UNPLAYABLE.
    The lag means you freeze as soon as you shoot.. resulting in you popping or the npc is on other side of map when you start to move again.
    5 times I've relogged and cleared cache... each time giving brief playabilty.
    2D or 3D makes not diference..
    As for the materials.... did 9 Devo & 2 Boss Devo before I gave up playing as no Plasmide dropped at all and just could not play because of the seriously bad lag.

    I was popping Sibelon & Boss Sibelon most of morning before event started.. played without any issue. Now shooting a salmon makes game freeze.

    D.O. please, please sort this out... You can collect or do missions if the game is not playable.
    Was looking forward to this... this is a major disappointment, not only due to lag, but the fact you cannot collect the materials as they are not being dropped.
     
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  4. This is a good point, however, the fact that the Big Item crafting is for upper level players, the newbs can still generate some ammo and other items to get to level 12 (which allows them to go anywhere (in their map system, some enemy maps still off limits) but then it does not take that long to get to level 12 (less than 41 hours and I spent several writing the Missions from NYX when I started). If I remember on my us2 account I was level 12 in 2 days.

    The issue I have with the system is that there is so much in-game issues currently happening (whether attached with the Assembly Update of just code conflicts) that no one is enjoying the game. Yes the issue of not being able to do the Event Missions has been an issue for every Event we have had (the last one being the exception), but the community has learned to deal with these issues and help their friends become level 12 if they wanted to participate in the Events, but most have been so lame no one even cared to do them. The M.A.S.Q.U.E. Event is the first one I have participated in since the Christmas/Birthday Events, even though I have logged into the game every day for over a year now.

    Assuming they get the play-ability issue corrected, we already reported the CHANCE issue was going to be a problem during the Beta Test and I guess they did not take our concerns to heart from the feedback thread they had open for this issue. The continued use of CHANCE in this game is going to be the final straw in the ASSEMBLY of the Coffin that D O is creating. It is not the community or the lack of players wanting to enjoy the game causing the issues it is the lack of concern to what the community is saying that have forced so many to leave what they have enjoyed for years.

    Please remember that change is needed but changes that are impossible to accomplish/achieve are not going to inspire people to invest TIME/money with you.
     
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  5. Paul69

    Paul69 User

    I totally agree with the above comment.... D O are killing the game.
    I log in every day... even the fact I have done 12 consecutive Zetas ( 5 on double GG reward days ) and still not got a single Havoc design. I know I will get my last havoc when I finish the havoc mission as it is the reward.
    My biggest issue is the lack of foresight by D O as to players being able to PLAY the missions.. the rewards getting worse with each new event... 20 uri per mission in last event was an insult.

    This event lasts until 22 may... how can we get the rewards ( surgeon / pusat designs ) if we cannot collect the materials in the window when they are still available. The chance of.. means you most likely will NOT get enough to build them before they are gone.

    But mostly... fix the LAG !!

    We can't even play our normal missions because we just cannot play..
     
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  6. gogogo_12

    gogogo_12 User

    Not only that, to get a surgeon you need 2800 scrap. I've been getting scrap drops about 50% of the time and without them in the shop I will need to destroy 5600 aliens...
     
  7. waste of time logging chat box broke back page broke pet collector broke game broke in too much lag too much this too much that, am outside the sun is shining i got a cold beer text me when u got the game working lol peace lmao what a joke
     
  8. for real ? the problem is that this event is for lvl 11+?
    I don't know how to tell you but i managed to get lvl 15 in 48 hours , so players have more than enough time to get their accs to lvl 11 and get some rewards from this event. And yes it's harder for lower players to get the mats comapred to an UFE , but this event is actually worse for them because most of us will get bored to kill saimon after saimon when we can just go and hunt ppl... Also is a very good even since the P.E.T which is really only an item for newer players is very easy to build.


    Now the lag , lag has nothing to do with the event on it's own , it's not laggy cause the event is very resource hungry (like the hitac/demander) but it's laggy because someone screw things up and managed to bug maps...

    Also i don't get how you managed to kill 11 devo witout 1 drop? i killed 3 of them and got 2/3
    Also used kami on 2-5 made around 10 items
    And in 10-15 minutes in x-7 with lags (shoting x3 however) , managed to get 20 item .... This rates are for sure good and not hard to build staff...
     
  9. Ya need to calm down half of you have bad pc and bad internet if ya lagging as im working with 40fps and its obviously bugs would be happening its a major change to the game balances,I like to point out the reason I believe newbies are excluded is bc Do knows newbies wont get to finish it anyways sinces they know newbies get owned all day so what chances do they have also the fact that what they need looks to be alot and if the npc aren't dropping as much as it could be it might look like a long long journey and they might just say no and do there normal stuff.
     
  10. I hate to say this as I started my account in order to play as a new player but the first thing a player that starts, how to put this -- oh yeah, today needs to do is work on beginner missions so as to figure out the game. Any player that works at learning the game will be able to get leveled up as stated above in a couple of days. Even if they are not hard core about the game play, it will take less than a week of playing, but you do have to play. I just made level 16 and I don't focus on half of what players are to go after in this game.

    At the same time, these players can work on an event mission as they build up the credits to build up their ships. The last event, for the most part, was very focused on lower map missions. It was by far the best ever event for new players to get involved into, but we knew that was not to last. The FAQ for this event came out days before the event started and the only thing anyone was concerned about was the ore that "could" be purchased. That for me is an unbalancing problem as it allows players to just worry about competition in popping SK and BK.

    Unfortunately, the majority of us can't seem to do much of anything as the lag is multiplying all around the orbit on all the servers. If we can get the lag under control, out new players will find that they will be able to build up, and level up their accounts, and by the time they are ready for SK/BK, they will be leveled up enough to do so.
     
  11. USS-Aries

    USS-Aries User

    In the OA it says every one, the event missions can be accepted by level 6+ but as a level 6 player you cannot enter the 6-X and 7-X maps, the fact that a player can level up quickly is not in dispute. To survive on the uppers requires more than just leveling up you also need the proper equipment pilot points and a a skylab that can produce enough resources and this takes much longer than 48 hours to do. I personally can do the missions with out any problems and believe each should have a fair chance and speak up for the lower levels because they are the future for this game not only for much needed revenue but also to build the game to it's former glory.
     
  12. well , as a fact no matter how easy the events are , this game will not come back to the former glory , because DO staff made it a sure fact long time ago :)).

    Also 3/4 of "noobs" in my server are people who have UFE ships in other servers and i belive they can survive a BK event with a LF2, goli.
    Oh and the lvl 6+? U can do lvl 6 just by finishing tutorial , that takes 30-60 minutes....

    And to be honest , u seen last event "spacetech" was a event just for low new players. Did u had fun on it? I just prefered to spend the time i could do event quests , in uppers killing bks , was more profitable(and fun , yay killing mordons all over again!).

    Also this event is mostly cosmetic from what i can see(except pusat/surgeon/PET)

    And from this 3 things a new player can get every single one of them , just will take much more time than i will will need (with a semi-ufe) , but also everything takes more time for new players(this is how this game was designed since 2006...) ... maybe because we already invested 1k+ hours in this game....
     
  13. The thing people are forgetting is this is not JUST an Event thing. YES the recipes currently available are for the EVENT only but some of them are permanent additions to the game. This system is going to be a good addition AFTER they get all of the bugs/kinks/glitches worked out but this may take several months to do so. IF the biggest issue is not cleared in the next couple days (LAG) then the Event is a bust and the game is a loss.
     
  14. u know what i think, i think do are causing this lag blaming it on a ddos attack on fb ? like 3k people play lmao its not the biggest game on the net far bloody from it lol them days are gone! do are causing the lag to make us work harder for our scrap for our surgeon, thats what i think lol AND ill play all day all night BRING IT BP i want my FREE SURGEON:D:D:cool:
     
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  15. your not gonna be able to craft a surgeon if the lag keeps up

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  16. Even without the lag, I and many others won't get anything in the Crafting Event. It's way too long, like 2800 of 1 rock for Surgeon, and you need to kill 10 Samions for 1. It's insane, and stupid.
     
  17. Paul69

    Paul69 User

    Apart from the 200x UCB-100 you'll going to struggle to collect enough for anything.
    If this extreme lag is not fixed then you will be unable to do even the simplest missions... I cannot do mine or ever consider LOW mission until they fix this.
    Personally I think they should pull this event and return to pre- event status until they find and fix the issue so we can still continue to play.

    Re- the Devo drops...
    I will admit.. due to the lag I could only sit and wait in hope I was still alive... and it IS highly possible the drop from devo was taken as I sat frozen... UNTIL I counted the number of npc's popped between drops of materials. I can only say what I saw.. and as with all D O 'CHANCE' items.. everyone gets different luck in the draws. Some could do for example 12 GG and get all 10 drone designs... unlike me .. 27.. got 7 havoc in first 15.. then none since.. I have 9.. ( 1 from blue booty & 1 from uri buy ) . but useless until I get 10th.

    I just hope D O sort this issue out fast.. as this game is for now almost unplayable.
    Forget this event.. as you cannot collect if you cannot play.
     
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  18. well u are suposed to be able to buy everting for surgeon except the 60 pieces that you get from x-7/x-6 (and those i managed to colect them in 1h , when i was not frezzed to death :)) )
     
  19. seems like a great idea except... LAG LAG LAG. would love to give it a shot but its fustrating that after 6+ years of playing you guys still cant get it right.hopefully it is fixed by latter or i feel its time to find a new game.
     
  20. Today is gone as they have gone home for the day. Might be back tomorrow but I would not hold my breath for it.