[TI] damage problem

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  1. LF4 upgrade damage that seems to be bugged (other topic in technical section) indeed does not explain damage difference here since he hardly had any upgrades on them.

    But the question why he has lesser damage with "bo1 booster + alien hunter" than with "double booster + no alien hunter" is yet a mystery. With double booster only he should have 29 750 damage which is almost 800 damage less than he had with alien hunter 30 540. However:

    With double boosters he should do 29 750 but he did 32 000. (+ 2 250 damage)
    With alien hunter he should do 30 540 but he only did 29 800. (- 760 damage)

    Numbers don't lie. With the setup OP gave us he simple could not have done 32 000 damage at the first place.
     
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  2. Aviator

    Aviator User

    i just calculate my damage again with sep with b0-1 booster damage and drill formation with x2 laser (the other are the same, lf4s, upgrades, etc...)

    my actual damage is 36.7k (max)

    the calculation result are 39555

    i dont think it just the lf4s upgrade bug because i upgrade just 4 lf4s to level 2 the the different is much more than this

    so am sure there is some thing wrong and please i am still waiting for your action to solve the problem

    thanking you in advance
     
  3. -Llewcoch-

    -Llewcoch- User

    Hi
    just a reminder Aviator - this is a forum. Yes. Where people talk and help each other with advice etcetc.
    If you want someone to perform any kind of action on your account, then you need to contact support. This is something which a forum mod cannot do.
    They can refer you to support, but you should ask them nicely.

    Sorry you are still having damage problems.
    I suggest you strip off the fancy bells and whistles and perform straightforward single laser damage tests on a standard drone formation, non dmg bonus ship design, with non upgraded, or fully upgraded weaponry, using LCB-10.
    ie, perform damage check for
    1) LF4 x1, ship mounted
    2) LF3 x1, ship mounted
    3) LF4 x1, drone mounted
    4) LF3 x1, drone mounted.

    use 50-100 volleys each time. Record max and min dmg dealt. If you want to be thorough, record all dmg values and take average.

    Compare to laser damage charts on these forums. Remember to take into account your drone upgrade levels, for drone tests results.

    Why on earth are you performing a base damage check with drill formation on? Unless you are examining specifically the dmg bonus which that particular formation is giving you, and you are happy with all other dmg figures.

    And why just x2 laser? For base damage calc, start with LCB-10. Higher grade ammo should offer simple multiples of this ( you can check ).

    Sorry m8, just trying to help, I really hope you get sorted out
    vbest
    -Llewcoch-
    GB1
     
  4. Aviator

    Aviator User


    hey
    thanks for helping me mate

    am unseeing x2 and drill formation as example and because i recently using it all the time, but sure it will be wrong with basic damage (same concept )

    and i will try what you said

    i thought they could resolve the problem here

    thank you again mate for assisting me :) and i was waiting their action , was weird because there is no response, good to tell me that

    admins, kindly could you let me contact the support please

    thanking you in advance
     
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  5. Go to your account backpage, click the question mark on the top right and select support and explain your issue to them and hopefully they can help
     
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  6. -Llewcoch-

    -Llewcoch- User

    Second that, Foojub
    That is great advice Aviator.
    You see on the form you use to get to forums from back page? There is a direct link to support right there, which you can use.
    Give them loads of info in your request - you will be assigned a 'ticket' and that will be the identifier for your specific query.
    What else..?
    Oh yeh - make sure to supply your user ID number ( top left of backpage ), your player ID, server, name etc...
    Give them as much evidence as you can find - do those dmg tests and attach a text file.

    Oh yeh. And be vvnice to them lol. Then, cross fingers (and toes) for luck.

    Very best
    -Llewcoch-
    GB1
     
  7. Aviator

    Aviator User

    ok guys thanks

    I've sent them massage yesterday and now am waiting for their replay

    wish me luck :)
     
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  8. -Llewcoch-

    -Llewcoch- User

    Good luck!
    V best
    -Llewcoch-
    GB1
     
  9. Aviator

    Aviator User

    hello
    i sent support all details about this problem since almost 3 days, no replay until now
     
  10. -Llewcoch-

    -Llewcoch- User

    hi aviator
    be patient.
    best
    -Llewcoch-
    GB1
     
  11. ASTRAEA

    ASTRAEA User

    As you know, some issues with support may take a bit longer to get a response due to the complex nature of the issue.

    Please be patient and keep a positive thought that the members of the support team will get the issue resolved.
    Have a nice day
    Astraea
     
  12. This will not explain the original question but I think it's still worth posting since it will solve a mystery for many players in the future.

    Today I did extensive damage testing by myself and with friend too for many hours. Lot's of single laser tests and full laser tests with different setups and bios. Those tests proves that LF4 upgrades are actually working unlike I claimed before. The difference is that in the formula I used before instead of multiplying alien hunter and drone formation (drill) 1,12 * 1,2 = 1,344 you actually add them 1,12 + 1,2 = 1,32

    The calculations would look like this:

    Ship: 3000 * 1,1(booster) * 1,32(alien hunter + drill formation) * 1,05(design) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) = 11 891,880

    Drones: 4003,2 * 1,1(drone base level 6) * 1,1(booster) * 1,32(alien hunter + drill formation) * 1,05(design) * 1,0372(avg of drone level) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) = 18 104,717

    Total damage: 11 891,880 + 18 104,717 = 29 996,597 ~ 29 997

    Actually 545 lower than I calculated before. Bp still do very strange roundings which means your real damage in-game is probably between 30 020 and 30 040. It seems like bp rounds middle of calculations already.
     
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  13. Aviator

    Aviator User

    so?

    my damage is correct ?
     
  14. Ddraig

    Ddraig bp_phrase_Forum_General

    Hi Aviator,

    Seeing as there have been no further posts on this thread recently, can i ask whether you have anything further on this problem?

    I hope that support were able to assist you with this.

    ~Ddraig