[TI] LF4 Upgrades are bugged - Not working

I was doing damage calculations for other topic and while testing the formula I noticed that LF4 upgrades do not give you any extra damage. The highest damage I have got ingame is 39 568.

My setup:

Surgeon: 6%
35 LF4: 33 level 7, 2 level 2. Level 2 LF4s are in ship.
Drill formation: 20%
Damage booster 1 and 2: 20%
Alien hunter/bounty hunter: 12%
10 drones level 16: 6%
Full Havocs + Drone base level 6: 20%
Infected: 10%
x2: 100%
promerium: 30%


Calculations with LF4 upgrades:

Level 2 LF4: 200,8
Level 7 LF4: 204,8

Ship: 13 * 204,8 + 2 * 200,8 = 3 064
Ship: 3 064 * 1,2(booster) * 1,12(alien hunter) * 1,06(design) * 1,2(formation) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) * 1,1 (infection) = 14 981,013

Drones: 20 * 204,8 = 4 096
Drones: 4 096 * 1,2(full Havocs + drone base level 6) * 1,2(booster) * 1,12(alien hunter) * 1,06(design) * 1,06(drone level 16) * 1,2(formation) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) * 1,1(infection) = 25 474,137

Total damage: 14 981,013 + 25 474.137 = 40 455,15 ~ 40 455


Calculations without LF4 upgrades:

Ship: 15 * 200 = 3 000
Ship: 3 000 * 1,2(booster) * 1,12(alien hunter) * 1,06(design) * 1,2(formation) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) * 1,1 (infection) = 14 668,093

Drones: 20 * 200 = 4 000
Drones: 4 000 * 1,2(full Havocs + drone base level 6) * 1,2(booster) * 1,12(alien hunter) * 1,06(design) * 1,06(drone level 16) * 1,2(formation) * 1,3(promerium) * 2(x2) * 1,1(infection) = 24 877, 086

Total damage: 14 688,093 + 24 877,086 = 39 565,179 ~ 39 565

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What do we see here?

My damage should be 40 455 (according to the calculations with LF4 upgrades).
My damage is 39 568 (the highest value I have seen in-game). Calculations without LF4 upgrades gives me 39 565 damage. Almost precisely my in-game max. damage.

39 565 ~ 39 568: 3 damage difference could be rounding error since I don't know how bp do the roundings.

This result means that LF4 upgrades are bugged and not working!

 

Yeah you almost never get your full damage. It happens. You tend to hit 75-85% of full damahe

 

Around 5 million x2 shot with this setup. My max. in-game damage is very accurate. The damage range 75% - 100% is not the reason for damage difference.

 

There is a difference between hit rate and damage variations. That "75-100%" is the reason. You almost never hit your max damage. 1k damage loss is not major.

 

Today we did a damage test with my clan mate with following setup.

35 x LF4
Enforcers: 5%
Full havocs + drone base level 6: 20%
Double damage booster: 20%
Bounty hunter: 12%
Drill formation: 20%
Seprom: 60%
Level 16 drones: 6%

First we did it with 35 x LF4 level 1 and then with same setup with 35 x level 16 LF4. We used x4 ammo.

LF4 upgrades give 5 259 damage using same formula I used in post #1. Therefore, difference between using level 1 and level 16 LF4 is 5 259. Our sample was not very big so it's not precise but you get the idea. We did around 20 million damage with level 1 LF4s and 20 million damage with level 16 LF4s. With level 16 LF4s we did 500 more damage than with level 1 LF4s but the average damage was same. The slightly higher max. damage with upgrades is due to damage range (75%-100%) which we could not eliminate completely with our limited sample. However, with upgrades max. damage should have been over 5 000 higher and average damage much higher also. That never happened. Another proof that LF4 upgrades are not working.

 

Today I did extensive damage testing by myself and with friend too for many hours. Lot's of single laser tests and full laser tests with different setups and bios. Those tests proves that LF4 upgrades are actually working unlike I claimed before. The difference is that in the formula I used before instead of multiplying alien hunter and drone formation (drill) 1,12 * 1,2 = 1,344 you actually add them 1,12 + 1,2 = 1,32

Alien hunter (12%) + drill drone formation (20%) = 12 + 20 = 32%
Earlier I believed (and it seems so did many others since none corrected me) that it would be 1,12 * 1,2 = 1,344 = 34,4%

Funnily enough the difference between those is very close to difference between lvl 1 and lvl 7 LF4 cannons so the mistake was hard to avoid.

Bp still do very strange rounding, though. It seems like bp rounds middle of calculations but I will do new topic for that.

This mystery is solved and topic can be closed now.

 

Closing as requested.

Best regards,
.-Raijin-.