[TI] Where are my ships?

I had Aegis, Spearhead, Goliath, Vengeance and Leonov allocated to hangars, and additional Leonov not allocated to any hangar.
To my great surprise, all of my "base" ships vanished except Leonov.
At the time of "transition", each ship was equipped with some design (except Leonov) but it really makes absolutely no sense that removing designs from ships should save them from being deleted.
The fact that I can bid on the mentioned ships but not items like Aegis Elite and Spearhead Elite designs, which I already own, confirms my ships are missing!

I demand administrator/moderator explanation what happened to my ships and why did I only get compensation for 2 ships. Using designs without corresponding base ships has no sense.

Is there any way to get my URIDIUM PAYED ships back?

 

This is an issue that has been passed up to the TEAM and after the weekend they will look into making the corrections necessary. @Solid_Eye stated that she even lost ships on her PERSONAL account so be patient and see what happens next week. She posted in this >thread<.

 

Thank you HelpMeHelpYou for the info and the link. It would really be totally senseless to lose base ships.

Well, I already got another Goliath and Vengeance from the Auction but don't have 1.4 billion credits for Aegis or 400 million for Spearhead (I play on GE 1).

A bare Goliath and Vengeance ships are always at disadvantage (including cosmetic designs like Amber, Jade, Sapphire, etc. that only change the looks) without a design. But some people prefer cosmetic over damage or shield boost, at least for some show off.

But things are much different for Aegis, Citadel and Spearhead because their designs give both benefits and drawbacks. I used to fly bare Aegis through dangerous zones because Elite design shortens the shield recharge and health repair time. Spearhead with Elite design has longer cool down for the ultimate cloaking, so I used to fly bare Spearhead as well.

On top of all that, I paid for them with money/uridium at the time when they were not available in the Auction.

 

Well the FACT that even the TEAM has lost the ships you know it has been passed up the chain to be addressed as they, like us, do not get any benefits in the game for their time, they only get a heads up of items coming sooner than we do.

I am waiting for the Aegis, Citadel, and Spearhead to be returned to me instead of trying to buy them again and YES the others are easy to get from AUCTION, I just feel cheated as they did not give us heads up to remove our designs before they updated the system to get the full compensation advertised.

 

I hope it will go smoothly and without much trouble. But it's just my hope.

Getting another Goliath and Vengeance may create further complications, as I expect that if the base ships will be returned then it won't be only Aegis, Spearhead and Citadel but also base Goliath and Vengeance.

And I don't see the reason why the ships having skill designs got deleted in the first place. That shouldn't happen at all and we shouldn't be doing ridiculous things (like removing the design - skin) to save them from getting deleted...

 

I would offer that the only reason DO is taking any action on this downgrade is because "the team" lost ships. Not sure what issue this was trying to resolve because it sure is not an improvement.

 

The issue is the Expo 16 Skins could not be added in the Old Hangar system and thus they needed this Update to allow for the Purple Skins to be added to Designs.

 

And what makes Expo 16 Skins so special that they don't fit into the old hangar system? Excuse me, but after all this crap I don't have energy to read through the FAQs.
But it's again upside-down logic; instead of making Expo 16 skins compatible with the old hangar, they changed hangar to make it compatible with the new skins.
Like, I make a new rim but it doesn't fit on the car - "oh no problem", manufacturer says and will redesign the car so it fits my rim... Anything wrong with this kind of reasoning?

 

Have you looked at the items being sold in SHOP that are connected with the current Event? The Sentinel and Diminisher now have Purple Designs that can be worn. These again are DESIGNS not ships so to be able to use them you have to have a SHIP to apply them to. The made this NEW Hangar so that they could INDIVIDUALLY design skins for these other DESIGN SHIPS to continue the advancement of the customization theme they have started. They could have added a second drop down menu for these designs then everyone would be crying I own this but can't find it (just like they are now) but as we get accustomed to the New System these will go away and the NEW players will be able to see exactly where everything is and we will be able to enjoy more added designs for the ships we like to fly instead of being stuck in the same old Design that can't be modified.

 

Noticed them in the shop but frankly, didn't bother to look at them after realizing I have lost my ships as I was too upset. And I was quiet for a long time swallowing whatever was thrown at me...
And I still don't understand why is it incompatible with the drop-down menu, since you still need to have a base ship, the design and then corresponding Expo 16 design to select it in almost the same drop down menu, right?

Just like the arctic version of spectrum shown here by solid_eye:

 

But since the Spectrum is a DESIGN in the old system could you imagine the clutter we would have had having all of the customization's in the one drop down tab? Currently a few ships have Skins available, eventually they all will, and to have sub designs in the one drop down window I could see people complaining about having to scroll through all of them to try to find the one ship they wanted to use.

Basically D O is damned if the do and damned if they don't in this situation. If they make the "Saved" configuration and they make it so it is transferred to any type of ship (no matter how many slots) the change could be made simpler and then we would just make the changes for the equipment that was not applied (say Surgeon needs another Generator or you need to replace Speed on Vengeance with Shields because of Goliath having more) but could be faster than the old method.

 

There are certainly better solutions than the current one, it is horribly thought out and cluttered with designs I don't own and will never own.
The old style hangar wasn't harassing me with the things I don't have and was loading faster. And NEVER DELETED MY SHIPS.
Plus, no matter what kind of equipping automation was/is/will be ever implemented, I would do equipment transfer manually in 99.9% of the time. Can't trust the new systems while old ones were still broken when they were replaced/retired.

 

Actually there have been previous updates that have caused things to disappear and need to be replaced my Support. But as there are more changes to come and this is just one stepping block for the future D O we have to accept it and move on. Difference now is for those that have all of this extra equipment in their hangar they now have places to put it. All ships owned can be flown whether in Favorite Hangar or not. You just can not Warp into them if not selected as a Favorite Ship. And for those who still had hangars to buy now they get the remainder for free.

I think it is a good update, when the glitches and improvements are made, but currently I have to agree with you I was happier with the old Hangar System, since I don't own any of the Special Customization Skins (like Frost/Frozen or Championship and not interested in Purple Expo 16 designs) it really has no benefit to me currently.

 

But still, with this new hangar system you just can't have one Goliath on 3-6 for bashing kristallons and cubes and another Goliath on your home base to do gates, right?
You can warp it free to home base but then have to fly back through PVP maps and possibly get killed, taking drone damage and wasting your boosters time. Or spend a jump credit/uridium to spawn at a random spot and again possibly get killed there as well.

Definitely not improvement in my eyes. And realistically, what percentage of players would have so many designs that their old hangar would become cluttered by all owned designs?

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EDIT:
I once placed a bid on AROL-X but someone overbid me in last seconds. The credits were returned to me yet the item was booked to my inventory... but I knew this would be 'corrected' promptly and was measuring time till it's gone. It took ~6.5 hours for DO Team to remove it - very efficient and effective when something goes against their favor (although by their own fault), even if it's a small thing like that.
But vice versa, it's a painful process that requires long consultations and hard decisions before it's done... if it's ever done.

In first case NO MONEY was gained or lost yet the issue was dealt with promptly. In the case of my ships, I lost REAL MONEY and will have to go through agony to get them back. This is what really bugs me.

 

You can have Design Ships "Parked" in different maps and can still change hangars to access the other map. If you had different ships (designs) in different maps they are still there. The Base ships that were taken away may not be in those maps however. Use the Star (in top right corner for each Ship you were using and it will put them back i the Hangars and maps like they used to be.

Yes they are very quick to correct you account issue if they mess up but are very slow on fixing it the other way.

 

I used to switch mostly between diminisher, enforcer and exalted, and that is now impossible without warps.

Yeah, that's why I added a line in my post that was supposed to be EDIT 2, and it went "under your feet"...

 

This can still be done using the Transfer button in the equipment page.

Sorry I must have missed that.

 

Sorry, but I don't understand how. My Diminisher is now on 3-7, while my Bastion is on 3-1. The transfer would only move equipment from Diminisher to Bastion (like "equipment warp"), but if I want Bastion on 3-7 for more shield boost I would have to either jump or fly it to 3-7.
The old hangar was better in that regard as even with owning just ONE base Goliath - simple log off, change of the design and logging back into the game did the trick.
That's how I understand the functionality of the transfer function... and can go on with incompatibility of Surgeon with any other Goliath design due to extra generator slot, but that is another problem.

 

I guess I am not understanding the Problem. You state you want to be able to have ships in different locations to do different things and you can still do this. You can warp a PLAYING Ship to either location and not move the "Parked" ship at all. If you do not have enough Equipment to fully equip 2 ships then you would use the Transfer function as I mentioned (as long as it is in ship class) otherwise you have to un-equip and re-equip just like old system, they just added a few more that need to be messed with a little more..

If you are wanting to WARP ships to different locations then all you have to do is make sure you have "Starred" the ships to your Favorite Hangars and they are available to be warped into. This is done by selecting the ship and hitting the "Star" in upper right hand corner of ship screen. You have a maximum of 10 allowed, just like the OLD system. The warp system needs at least 2 Favorite Hangars to be able to work, or so I have read.

I have my 10 ships to warp into and have a ship on every map I play in (all home maps except x-2 & 3, and all Pirate maps) and the ship I play is my 10th Hangar. This New Hangar System now, I believe, allows me to have these ships "Parked" without having to tie up my Warping Spaces and now can have Fully Equipped ships to warp into and still have shells "Parked" for selecting which map I want to play in that day.

Edit;

I just verified that the Shell being parked and not in the Hangar does work.

 

We seem to be talking about different things.
First, you can spare yourself from explaining how to star the ships/shells as I did that before making my first complaint here about missing ships, in hope that it would make them visible.

The problem is very simple. Suppose I am doing a gate and decided to use my Diminisher, which is on map 3-7. After the gate is complete, I want my Diminisher back on 3-7. How can I do that?

• Old system: I have 2x Goliath, one on home map and one on map 3-7, and have to re-equip and re-skin them. No warps needed.
• New system: I can have only 1x Goliath, but Diminisher is ship on its own so it has to be warped to the home map. This warp is free. But after the gate is done, I need to use jump credit, or uridium, or plainly fly back to 3-7.

I don't want to spend jump credits or uridium just to bring Diminisher back where it was. Now which part is unclear?