[UI] Changes for the speed of the Ships

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  1. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    Hi everybody, I have been playing this game from a long time ago, most of time I use spearhead for collecting boxes or collect pirate booties, but I hate the fact that I can outrun or escape from any ship except from the pusat, which easily can kill me (maybe three shots as maximum) basically when a pusat kill me more than two times is stressing (at least for me) and I quit the game for a while.

    I was thinking in maybe upgrade the amount of hitpoint of the spearhead and, maybe, we spearhead users could escape but thinking on it carefully looks like I won’t do a big difference and I remember read something similar from owningpeeps in a thread.

    But today I was killed for a pusat and quit for a while (as always) then I though what if the pusat speed is decreased? But must modify the speed of the other ships to keep a balance.

    Then I though this:
    Spearhead= 490
    Pusat= 480
    Surgeon= 470
    Vengeance= 460
    Goliath= 450


    Also I made some questions-answers:

    It’s too much speed for the surgeon, it can outrun a vengeance and a goliath
    Yes, it can as a pusat can outrun both too.
    I see the pusat and the surgeon as the maximum elite ship designs (I really don’t want more speed designs -.-!) so both should have more speed than the normal ones.

    What’s the advantage for the spearhead ships?
    Spearhead users have more time to think, and or use skills, slow mines or something and run-escape but if they don’t use it at time will die anyway.
    I think I’m giving more seconds to escape-survive.

    Pusat won’t catch a spearhead then
    It can’t outrun it but, can catch it and kill it because it will be just behind it.

    Vengeance should have more speed
    I think is very hard to see a vengeance, almost everybody use goliath or aegis or pusat (except new players). The vengeance still can escape from normal goliath with the right tactics.

    Have you think in the ambassador design?
    Yes, I have think in that design and I think it should have the same speed as the goliath (450) because is a very, very rare design and almost impossible to get :(.

    What about the other ships?
    I think the other ships should not have more than (440) as maximum speed. Including citadel, leonov and every other credit ship.


    Sorry if I don’t know the right place to post this I’m new here even if I have been reading this forum for months.
    Sorry if I have errors while writing, I’m still learning English :).
    Finally, what do u think about my idea? Would u improve something?
     
  2. The bottom line for all of the ship speeds comes as tactics, which favor the attacker over the defender. Most attacks, and I stress most, start with the attacker cloaked so as to be in your face at the start of the attack. For the defender the speed comes into play if they have enough defense (shields, hp, bio, boosters) for the shields to allow them to get away.

    In the beginning the Pusat was set to be faster than the spearhead and was trimmed down. Also, players figured out that a goli could take out a pusat in a few shots due to the low hp, similar to the spearhead.

    One must keep in mind that the spearhead is essential a recon ship. Its meant to move and keep moving, stopping to see lay of space, or bases if needed and then moving on. Of course, lots of players, guilty, use them for everyday tasks from npc missions or collecting to hunting. At the same time, the user must be alert to others closing in.

    The ambassador should be left alone, stat wise. I just wish there was another way to get it and that last event with it, no...

    Anyways, the speed of the various ships/designs should not be tinkered with. I get your frustration at being attacked and popped, I live under that fear in my bigboy, but hey, that's the game.
     
  3. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    you're talking about tactics but i'm talking about balance i think with those speed the game could have more balance in the speed field. also i think the defender should have the same opportunities as the attacker to survive or even fight back but i'm now focus in the speed and the survive aspect

    i know, and with the speed i'm saying the goliath still can kill a pusat

    all of this is true, and basically u should die frequently with a spearhead but with the speed as a favor fact u also may go away barely surviving

    i wish to get it too, i don't know which its base speed but i think should not be more than goliath

    u using a big boy :) good, you could motivate new users to use it, i miss it in the maps. it's not about tinker, i think this could help newbies to survive and don't get insta-popped and leave the game as lately have been happening.

    don't get me wrong i just have an idea and i'm trying to defend it.
    so let me know some other reason why i should desist in my idea.
     
  4. I am not just using a bigboy but I am only using credit equipment (drones, lasers, shields, speed) with it. Level 15, still ticking, and working through all the stuff. Its not very fast, even with speed config but its a bold statement to all that are out there. "I am not scared to play." LOL

    The ambassador with full speed is 10 faster than a goliath but does not have the firepower. I so want it. When I said speed is a tactic I meant you can use it for an advantage. Especially in the faster ships (vengi, pusat, spearhead) if keeping up with the mini map, zipping through your opponent to get away is something most players dont' expect. I mean, fly into the blasting? Sometimes it gives a great advantage for creating some distance. Even if you are in an Aegis or Goli getting attacked by one of them, moving through while they are coming at you can give you some breathing room to use for an escape.

    I guess in the end, I learn to work with wait I got and with all the issues with the game right now, I don't think changing speed is something that needs to happen at this time. Maybe in the future after fixing the bugs out there as I am a true believer that my Spearhead should out pace everything else in the orbit.
     
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  5. USS-Aries

    USS-Aries User

    Each ship as it own tactical properties the pusat is a light hit and run ship mainly for solo assasin's and the spearhead is a group recon ship and not a fighting ship hence only 5 laser slots and both ships are good boxing ships if you are box farming. The trick with the spearhead is to use a fast tank config BO2's on all drones for both configs and use slow mines while running once you got some distance and out of range so your not taking damage then ultimate cloak. Messing around with the base speed of ships will just create problems.
     
  6. I agree. The ship speeds are the least of the worries in the game. If you want to use a ship for something it was not designed to be then that is up to the player to figure out how to make it work better for them. The Pusat is just another form of the Vengeance ship which was designed to be the fastest (base Speed) in the maps. Then came the designs that allowed the Goliath to be faster, thus they had to create a design for the Vengeance to regain the top speed award.

    I do not understand why your running speed has anything to do with the game as even the fastest ship can not outrun a 3 shot killing UFE player. If anything needs to be done they need to nerf the UFE ships damage when they attack weaker (lower level < attacker by 3 levels) players giving the weaker ship the chance to get away or defend itself from the attack.
     
  7. I hated the Game after they implemented the Surgeon and the Speed Formation (Wheel).

    I thought this would be great
    Spearhead= 450
    Pusat= 450
    Surgeon= 450
    Vengeance= 450
    Goliath= 450

    For the Surgeon you can only Add i extra Shield Generator.

    Its a PvP Game no a EMP and run game so why not make every shit same Speed !!!
     
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  8. Tbh ship speed is my least worry. But its kind of boring for everyone to be flying the same kind
    of ship just because of speed advantage. Maybe at some point we could Craft an extra gen slot
    for Goli skill designs. Hopefully players will start raiding in them again.
     
  9. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    well, lets say it's about tactics but the true is u cant put slow mines because the enemy is hitting u just in your face, is no behind u to slow him down and it takes some seconds (long for me) to use ultimate cloak.
    then should be good to use ultimate cloak while be under attack or less seconds after be attacked, using the same speed.
    its just and idea i had and darkorbit wont put this on use lol, then it wont be any problems, just trying to know what people think about my idea and if its good or a bad one, obviously i'm going to defend if i can
     
  10. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    mm, nerfin the damage sounds good (its way too much, at least for a newbie) but its something difficult to do by darkorbit team i think, but also i think speed could help weaker players to escape
     
  11. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    hey, i like this idea, i would vote for this one. basically u made me change my mind :)
    everybody would use the same ship or different one but would be the same speed, i like it :)
     
  12. LOL pussats have been on my server. You can moth 1 with RSBs and x4 with full guns and he will be at half health.

    Of course lately on those pussats I have noticed when I hit one with a slow down rocket my ship gets an ice cube and they speed away.

    Not sure what cpu that is on those ships but they have perfect switching capabilities on rsbs and x4s while dancing like its a FPS
     
  13. Yeah, they pop pretty easily if you are ready for the attack.
     
  14. It is not a CPU, it is quick fingers on the number keys and using the quick slots to the maximum performance.
     
  15. You like hunting enemies, right? ^^

    If your "idea" will be implanted, there's REALLY no hope for escape. I don't like it, the enemies kill me so "fast"...even the EMP and Insta shield don't help if I'm in the middle of the map. Yeah...I can use...slow mines...ice rockets...the enemy can use EMP. AND ice rockets. It dependent on the skills of my hunter. It seems so that he will get angry and exploit all his opportunities if I defend myself...
     
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  16. HeyItsMe!!

    HeyItsMe!! User

    then, what do u think about changing the speed as i mentioned?
     
  17. Spearhead will be faster than Pusat, I like that.
     
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