[UI] Plastids &Scrap droprate

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  1. Plastids and Scrap droprate is ridiculously low considering what is required to crafting for example Surgeon and Pusat (Considering those materials can't be currently bought from shop with game currency)
    And we don't even know what those will cost when they come in shop.

    For surgeon 650 plastids & 2800 scrap. Total of 3450 materials of those sorts.
    and for pusat 500 plastids & 2300 scrap. Total of 2800 materials.


    Every seventh or tenth alien drops those. That means i need to kill atleast 24150 aliens and collect all materials they drop, and not miss even one, to get surgeon and 19600 for pusat.


    It's third day of event and i got ~ 45 plastids and 200 scrap (Includes mission rewards)

    If i have calculated correctly it takes atleast 241 days! me to get pusat with my current speed, witch is easier of those two. Now here comes a problem... I only have total of 14 days time to do that! I'm a normal person as most of your players propably are, that means we don't necesarily have time to hunt stupid saimons and devolariums all day long!

    Droprates must be dramatically increased. There is no point of even trying with current droprates!

    And ... ofcourse... not to mention there is loads of other stuff too, that are completely out of reach!

    Edit:
    I suggest, that all drops include cargo drop.
    Drop is presented as Plastids or Scrap, when there is a material drop, but cargo can be collected if there is room in cargo. Materials are considered as primary material to collect, since they wont take cargo space, so it will be collected even if cargo is full.

    I suggest following droprates:
    Saimon 1:4
    Boss Saimon 1:3
    Mordon 1:4
    Boss mordon 1:2
    Devolarium 1:2
    Boss Devolarium 1:1 (Since it takes so long to shoot it down)
    Sibelon 1:2
    Boss Sibelon 1:1 (Since it takes too so long to shoot it down)
     
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  2. Neo7

    Neo7 User

    well it's not meant for total noobs to go from bigboy to pusat or surgeon...you need to play to deserve it, you need to work for it...You can't just take shortcuts like this to become better. Those who played a lot and are a higher lvl will get it, because it's a next step...If you are gathering at this rate, then you don't really have any use for the surgeon and if everyone could get it, where would then be the point of that design? It's supposed to bring advantages for those, who've worked really hard and long for it. Go for something in your reach, don't reach for the stars, when you haven't even reached the surface.

    Oh, and your math is wrong...at the rate you are going, you would need 20 days for surgeon, just saying
     
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  3. Even 20 days are still too long...
     
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  4. It should be standard for all new players/accounts to spend at least 3 months in a bigboy. Of course I am at 6 months now and never want to get out of it. At any rate, the drops are slow. Players are hoping for the Surgeon or Pusat by the end of this, and I don't really see it happening. Of course at some point, there will be a sale in shop, probably on the weekend. A lot of players already have the two designs, or as some say ships lol, and will go for pet or drone designs, but that is still a slow process. Change the rate. On the Twitch, it was said that you would be able to know how long you will have to work in order to get something. At this rate, I say couple of months. I could figure out this with getting stuff through missions. I feel for those trying for stuff during the event, however it will not be the only time things are available so you "should" be able to keep collecting even after the event is over and get things when they come available again.
     
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  5. i think its actually pretty fair to be honest because if you really think about it, D.o did this event so ppl have a chance to even out the odds by being able to craft a pussat or surgeon for the smaller accounts... but that doesn't mean that by the time the events over everyone should being flying in a surgeon LOL thats just crazy talk, what it means is, for the players that are, or that are willing to put time and dedication into their accounts daily (especially throughout this event most importantly) will be rewarded pretty darn good i would say , however a lot of ppl dont have the time to do it or for other reasons. i personally decided not to go for a ship design and use this event to farm battle maps for uri since i have a box doubler and dont seem to lag in b-maps for the most part, and hunt ppl in the active hours since the event is drawing a lot of pilots out to hunt npc's ;)
     
  6. USS-Aries

    USS-Aries User


    When you talk of short cuts most players who own a surgeon have used a short cut, the P2W short cut. As for saying a total noob should not have a surgeon and have to work for it is also nonsense as there are no level restrictions on what ship or equipment you can own or how much or how little you can spend.
     
  7. Neo7

    Neo7 User

    yeah so it's gonna be like those noobs that buy a UFE account and don't even know that upper maps exist or how to get to them right?
     
  8. If you buy an account then it's a perma ban when you get caught buying an account is in breach of the General terms and conditions.
     
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  9. Yea it is hard to get resources and when they are going to put it in shop
     
  10. Oh, you are right, but your math is wrong too... just saying :p

    If i need 2800 materials for pusat and during 3 days i got total of 245... 245/3=81,66 thats ~81 materials per day
    how many times 81 goes to 2800?... thats the days i need to get what is required! and it's 34 surgeon requires even more.

    But my point as almost UFE is, that droprate is not enough high. I can pop saimon easily with one shot.
    If you are saying something else you propably have 8 hours a day, witch is good for you, but everyone has no same kind of window of opportunity, since people have a thing called life.
     
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  11. Neo7

    Neo7 User

    Ok, let's get into it :D
    You've posted the thread in the morning saying, that you have 245 materials. Assuming, that you didn't play at night means that we can ignore wednesday as a collecting day, since you didn't have time to collect much before 9 o'clock and since the Assembely event started on monday, that gave you 2 days to collect....since we've established that you couldn't collect much today before the post and the total of your resources. So with all of that in mind it comes to....245/2=122,5 materials per day. And that goes in to 2800 almost 23x...and almost 26x for surgeon :D And also we may expect for missions to give out a bit more than on 1st day and on second day, just like today it gave quite a lot and that substracts quite some days of that. I like it how we're arguing about math here :)
    Oh and I do have a life, it's just this week I'm gonna play more, since I spent like 1.3 mil uri on gates when surgeon was promised for gate rewards, and now I really I want to get it. After this, I go back to playing only a few hours a week.
     
  12. WiccaDio

    WiccaDio User

    Personally i dont want surgeon, everyone is going to have it and for what? a 1% increase in stats? no thanks.

    I think the time frame is fair to achieve one of the items, if getting all is you're goal, you aren't setting realistic goals. It's not meant for someone to get all of them. and if you do, congrats, youre one of the very few who did.
     
  13. lol This is getting funny :D Reason of difference in our math might be that we live opposite sides of globe?... its 20.59 here now.
     
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  14. WiccaDio

    WiccaDio User

    not to mention a full time job. I'd have to play at work to compete with people that just wake up and play till they go nye night.
     
  15. Neo7

    Neo7 User

    nah, just 1 hour apart...It's 20.03 here now :) But anyways my math teacher would be proud of me.
     
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  16. You can get a Pusat or Surgeon in one day. How you ask...just buy it when in shop :rolleyes: Otherwise, yeah. Also some of the aliens don't drop anything at all - no cargo - just a blank space where the NPC used to be o_O
     
  17. WiccaDio

    WiccaDio User

    ive had a 40 ish percent drop rate and 100 percent of the time drop rate for all boss npc.. maybe i just have good luck





    this is why the new events are a problem, it doesnt allow any of the new players to be able to participate, and makes it hard enough for players that arent new to achieve but easy for anyone thats ufe. bad planning, imo
     
  18. There is no mission today?? ... Ok. Don't know what to say, except I'm disappointed. I hope there will be tomorrow and so on.
    I have bug too... oftenlyt aliens wont drop anything. I'm guessing it's, when there should be material drop.
     
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  19. One of the Mods has stated they have flown thru the maps and seen a bunch of the NEW ores just sitting around and thinking they might have been left because of the thought of NO DROP. I myself saw them disappear before I could unfreeze to move, but could have been stolen as I was in a frozen screen. You may want to stay in the area of the NO DROP and see if it is just a DELAYED (LAGGED) delivery of drop.

    Also, as they are using this;
    http://www.bigpoint.com/darkorbit/board/threads/lag-in-game-may-09-2016-feedback.114234/
    for feedback on issues seen in the game since the addition of A.S. you might make a post there.
     
  20. apetown.

    apetown. User

    plasmid chance must be increased a lot AND drop system must be reworked as now when we get ore drop we cant get cargo.. makes me super pissed example: i would like to gather cargo from gamma kris as it would give good credits but no instead i onyl get prismatium, thats dumb. it muust be so that there is ALWAYS cargo/booty drop AND the possible ORE drop would be separate.
     
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