[UI] RANK PERCENTAGE CHANGE

Discussion in 'General Archive' started by snuffout, Mar 19, 2017.

Dear forum reader,

if you’d like to actively participate on the forum by joining discussions or starting your own threads or topics, please log into the game first. If you do not have a game account, you will need to register for one. We look forward to your next visit! CLICK HERE
  1. snuffout

    snuffout User

    In an atempt to allow more players a chance to advance and keep from having 80,000 rank point level 16 Basic Space Pilots I suggest the following rank structure :

    Badge........... Rank ..................Proportion

    [​IMG] ..............General ..................Max 1 per company
    [​IMG] ..............Basic General...........0.25% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Chief Colonel............0.5% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Colonel ..................1% of company
    [​IMG] ............. Basic Colonel ......... 2% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Chief Major............ 3% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Major ................... 4% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Basic Major ............5% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Chief Captain .........6% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Captain ................ 7% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Basic Captain ........ 8% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Chief Lieutenant .....9% of company
    [​IMG] ............. Lieutenant .............10% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Basic Lieutenant..... 11.5% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Chief Sergeant....... 14% of company
    [​IMG] ..............Sergeant ...............15.5% of company
    [​IMG] ...............Basic Sergeant ....... 17% of company
    [​IMG] ...............Chief Space Pilot .....18.5% of company
    .................Space Pilot .............20% of company
    .................Basic Space Pilot .....Everyone else
     
  2. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    lol rank does not matter. it changes to much to follow. Everytime a big war breaks out or a group moves to a new company rank jumps around like the stockmarket. So just play the game don't get to hung up on rank it is a pointless part of the game.
     
  3. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    It is pointless for you. Not him. Or quite a few other players.

    I agree it is not important to me too.

    But it is a part of game. It exist in other games too. Top scores exist everywhere. So do not put down a person. When he is expressing his opinion.

    I think it is a fair point to change Rank system. And I am 100% sure something New will be introduced by DO. They already mentioned it on twitch.

    So we will see :)
     
    dimanddistantMMO and theOtherKey like this.
  4. I agree 100% Star fire...You on point..lol
     
    Star*Fire likes this.
  5. Kyro

    Kyro User

    What people complaining about rank are basically saying is: let more people be on a higher rank...

    Cause even after they change the rank system people who play more will get high ranks without much doubt and most likely quite a bit of the current people complaining about rank will still be complaining, cause they don't play the game as much as other people. Also another thing about PvP meaning more on ranks that some people have suggested... hm yeah I hope you enjoy that, cause then people who buy a lot of rsb/emps/infection/cbo ammo will much easily get more kills aka get high ranks.


    Also then guess what if it is heavily based on PvP? Unless you buy a lot of uri for ammo you still don't stand that much of a chance of getting high ranks compared to how it is now(well apart from having to catch up to people who are already way ahead), also sounds like it will be reset monthly or so maybe... I hope you enjoy using a crap ton of ammo.... So basically I don't envy whoevers job it is to think of how to rework the rank system(which don't expect till second half of this year some time and hopefully BP actually gives a few months notice of it*)...

    Suppose could limit how much points can get in whatever activity decides who gets ranks(like say more about how well you do in the activity and not how much you do it), but whatever it is it needs to be something that players will actually like. As in just like and like doing it(also guess could say whatever it is, it has to feel like a valuable activity that feels worthy of getting ranks by doing it), otherwise it is pointless.


    *Just imagine them suddenly saying "oh yeah next week/month you're losing all your ranks, thanks for all the gates/money you have spent on uri to do them/to get your rank"... I'm just saying do this properly BP if you don't want hell to break loose, as in give more than a months notice(I'd say minimum of two) so people can stop doing gates if it is pointless for them to continue to do them(so at least they haven't potentially wasted anymore time/money), which of course earlier you warn people of this the better.

    And also of course whatever you do BP, do not undervalue what rank means to people... unless you want high ranked players to just quit(as in after rank change they better still easily be recognised as players who are/were very high ranked and don't forget Generals are also unique, so don't undervalue them either...).
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2017
  6. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    There will be 1 big change.

    Seasons. So you can play the most in a season and you will be top. Next season you might not. That is the idea!
     
    dimanddistantMMO likes this.
  7. Boxa!

    Boxa! User

    Not a bad idea, but I see one flaw in you logic... your percentages are way over 100%. Other than that, it's okay.
     
  8. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    was not putting anyone down just stating a fact. If you wish to follow rank enjoy but don't worry about it. It is 100% out of your control. You wish to help with rank? Make it so you loose 1/2 of your rank points when changing companys. You shouldn't be rewarded for moving.
     
  9. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    Well this Rank System will not go anywhere. DO developers said that already. As too much time and money spent on it by top players.

    But there will be a new introduction to season system. Where you can be top in one of them. If you will care :)

    And no-one can take that away from you. You will stay imprinted in that seasons top stop.

    I think that is fair enough :)
     
    dimanddistantMMO and theOtherKey like this.
  10. snuffout

    snuffout User

    Boxa, Over 100 % leaves room for new players
     
  11. snuffout

    snuffout User

    Star Fire, if you and others believe rank means nothing, then its fair to say experience points and honor points are worthless also. Galaxy Gates have no reason except to award you with ammo to , as you put it "just play the game" which I guess for you is the endless shooting of NPC's for no reason or reward. Whats the point?
     
  12. Star*Fire

    Star*Fire User

    Why do I say rank does not matter? In two days I lost one rank that I had 50k above the one below, now to get to the same rank back I need 100K. This happen in my opinon from a mass move from one comany to another. Now this has happened a few times from the tme I started this game. I only play for about 2 hours each day at a max. ( I do have a real life that needs attending). So I play for fun, I watch My level not rank. With watching and working on my ship and leveling up I'm in control of the game I'm playing. With rank is like gambling you work your butt off to get up in rank and a war in one of the other companys drives players away and your rank drops big time. Only way to fix it is take 1/2 of rank or drop them to the rank below what they had when they change companys. Why should the other players be punished because others made the decision to change companys to avoid losing rank points due to a clan war? That is why I say rank does not matter.
     
  13. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    Well it does and it doesn't. I think all depends if you care or not.

    I personally do not chase it. If I get higher rank. That is great. But I play for fun :)

    If there were seasons where you can gain some sort of title. Or special badge to show of. Where it would say: example 2017 season 3 Top 10. or something similar to this. then maybe I would try for some sort of rank to show off. THIS WOULD STAY LIKE TITLE OR BADGE FOREVER. (Unless you get a top 5 or better)

    I mean: It would show your best performing season.
    If you were number 2 in season 1 2017. It would show that above anything lower. Unless you get number 1 on some season later.

    That would be something to strive for. And would not mean you have to give all your time and money everyday forever to stay top.

    3 months you are the best. And got bragging rights for quite a while :)

    I think this sort of thing would maybe make me stretch a bit for one season at least :)

    Please say what you guys think on something like this????


    Thanks
    Smiebox
     
    dimanddistantMMO likes this.
  14. Kyro

    Kyro User

    I mean maybe for a limited time could keep your badge or what not for placing where you placed but not forever and you keeping it cant effect the next season. Lets just assume the seasons basically replace the current ranks(as in uses current ranks), so you get ranks like major, colonel, general etc from placing high in the season. I don't think there is anything wrong with say chief colonels and lower ranks having more than a few people be the rank but basic general and general? Of course cant be more than one general since it should show who is the most active/best, not who was very active/competed in one season. The rank below general should also be similar in my opinion as in not many people should be able to have it at any one time, though that goes for most high ranks but lower go more people can have it at any one time.

    Reducing the amount of seasons people need to compete in is deffinitely one way to make it less costly/effort wise to compete if you just want the rank. But from what has been said on the Twitch streams and Discord you will win more than just a rank or what not but also in-game stuff and if remember right they might be limited items like only get it off this... That means if you want to go after those items/rewards you need to compete in the season, so I'd say letting people keep ranks they won from a season for some time is only a half cooked solution. Not that I'm saying its a bad idea but it shouldn't give BP an excuse to make it very expensive/time consuming to get high ranked in a season.


    The best solution could just be make it more about how well you do in the activity that decides where you place, than how much you do the activity(or at least its not that time consuming). Then wouldn't need to do something like you have described, cause wont need a crap ton of time or uri, if you are skilled at the game will just get a good rank. Though maybe I am being idealistic with this, but in my opinion what I have described is better than giving people ranks just cause they play a lot or spend a lot of money on uri.

    Aka how it currently is, so if they were to do something like it depends on how much you play/spend then it hasn't changed really that much... except you don't need to catch up to people who have been grinding for a long time and maybe still grinding if you want a high rank.


    (Though there should still exist some form of leaderboard that shows your overall stats from something so people can compete on it if they play the game a crap ton. Top user leaderboard for example I don't think that should ever be moved from the homepage, and why would it? Whats wrong with showing players that have played the game for a long time or are very active? Or players that just want to try and catch up with such players? Can think of it as a long term goal that some players can go for if they really want to and so people know by just looking at the homepage they can see very active or long time player names. And of course it is also obviously another thing BP gets income/money from people competing for...)
     
    SmieBOX likes this.
  15. SmieBOX

    SmieBOX User

    I agree that the Ranks as they are now should stay.

    What I meant to add is some sort of different achievements. Different ranking just for seasons.
    And of course it is just speculation. So I do not know what would be the best way to do it.

    But here is another Idea:

    If there were 4 seasons lets say Spring Summer Autumn and Winter.
    You win Spring season as the best player/top player/ most active or whatever it may be. So you keep some sort of sign/badge/or coloured number next to DO current ranking system. But with a colour. Spring could be green. Summer Yellow. And so on.

    And you keep that for the whole year. Until the next Spring season either Starts or ends.

    What do you think?
     
    dimanddistantMMO likes this.
  16. snuffout

    snuffout User

    I to do not know what is the absolute fix. However here me out. It's quite obivous that rank is what the game revolves around. Everything you do gives Experience points, Honor points, Credits and a few goodies. We all know credits are useless, thats why most of us have Mega Millions or Billions. Experience and Honor points are only good for rank and the goodies are only good to get you more points. You can be a fully Elite Space Pilot with enough money, but you CANNOT BUY RANK and levels mean nothing after 17. The only thing you have to show for all your effort in this game is your Galaxy Gate crown and your Rank. Thats the only two things even Trump can't buy YET! Also for those of you who are "just having fun" well I've shot everything till I puke and without a purpose i"m done!
     
  17. snuffout

    snuffout User

    P.S. If I'm fed up just think how many below me are as well. Also lets say OK I paid the money ( and you will have to) and got elite and fully leveled up. It doesn't show, nobody cares and you have nowhere to go. New players don't stand a chance of getting into the game. NOBODY DOES ANYTHING FOR FREE! If you believe it doesnt matter then you might be interested in Pack Man.
     
  18. Boxa!

    Boxa! User

    Added to Darkorbit 2.0 thread here. Thank you for your suggestion.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2017