[UI] Stage 1 botting system

Okay,
seeing as there is no ACTIVE stage 1 botting system anymore, I believe that many of the players who did break the rules still play, dont they? We all know that Dark Orbit have no clue to the extent of BOTTING each individual account that broke the rules actually did...

I personally broke the rules out of curiosity for two hours....

The Pilot Points were removed and since then I have paid a considerable amount of money to build them back up....

Nowadays, people who break the rules get an 'insta ban' I think that this is fair (as do most)..However, it could be argued that there seems to be a loophole in the system which brings the whole 'stage banning' into disrepute...

Why would a game design such a system? Then as time passes decide to insta ban players from a new point in time? It doesnt make sense and I believe Dark, Dark Orbit has made a profit out of an exploit and to add insult to injury kept players on...You could argue that, all the players in Stage 1 should be perma banned too...Therefore, I think that it is downright dishonest to be treated like a criminal (A life sentence is worse than the death penalty? you decide)....Get rid of the stage 1 bot system and keep the insta ban! (players have been punished enough, let everyone that has an account be equal).

 

Hold on let me get this correct, you think it is dishonest for a law breaker to be treated like a criminal when he has already been found guilty? I dont really understand what your trying to say int his post. Remove the insta ban? You should have never tried the "bot" in the first place and that is your fualt in and of itself if you "tried" the bot. Same thing happens when people "try" drugs. The system should stay like it is. Net then need to find a way to catch account sharing players and perma ban those.



Also I still dont know what you mean by remove the stage one bot and keep the inst ban.

 

the system was put into play to stop people botting and keep them playing as people found more and more ways to bot bigpoint and players got fed up hence the insta ban

the stage system will stay anyone with a stage account is a criminal u stole u cheated the players wanna be lucky they got a slap on the wrist and not a insta ban after spending 100's then botting

u get sent to jail u get a criminal record for life not just for christmas

 

I'm entitled to my opinion, the system isn't correct...WHY, oh why, is there a 'bot stage 1' from the past? Yet still, as it stands today anyone caught using a bot is instantly banned... That to me, in itself, is unfair...Just stating a fact....



If they decided to delete all the stage 1 bans, I wonder what would happen?

I think I have a liable arguement here....

I am looking for a positive suggestion..


Get my drift?

 

So you want permanent ban by the first mistake or you want the permanent ban to disappear ?

 

I want fairness for everyone, PERMA BAN for first mistake....
Old system should be wiped... Either ban all the previous bots in stage 1 or wipe the slate clean...

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Why would players want to stay on after being put in stage 1 botting? Haha, that is ridiculous, isn't it? They can't ever win an event? It is awful that a player will still spend hard earned cash but never win an event....The main event in the game is JPA and DO have selfishly taken it away....

pp taken away...fine

But nobody is perfect... However, this punishment is ludicrous, it is basically saying that every future event from that time onwards cannot be won by the player caught up in a stage 1....
rendering the account 'worthless'

Are you saying I should go out and spend another £6,000 pound over 8 years just to take part in a event?
Is that what you call justice for 2 thousand pally stars in a one off moment of irresponsible behaviour (that was never to be repeated)....I know who the cheaters are!

My last points are 1.why does it say I have 5.6 k euro in my JPA? that should say zero

2. PP cost a fortune and isnt that enough punishment
3. Players are further punished by playing events but not receiving prizes


Thanks & bye.

 

i can see where you're coming from i do like calling cheats stage 1 lol but yea i do agree that the system should be wiped but only for stage 1 players as it dose not matter now and u get found again u get a perma ban anyways so removing the stage 1 would not make a diff to bigpoint just make the x botter happy and want to spending and not think there account is worthless

 

OK yes, with this I can agree. But the system needs to work perfectly, to detect all of the cheaters.

 

So, let me read this correctly, its not because you got caught and got your PP removed its really because you cant get rewards from anything in DO as a Stage 1 Person is that correct?

I personally believe this is a perfect plan of action for DO it teaches the cheaters to not use a bot else there will be repurcssions. if a perm ban isnt that an IP ban? and therefore you wont be allowed to play ever again.

If i was you Zynaps I would just create a new account and be pleased you haven't been perm banned from the game itself.

Personally I think all cheaters accounts should be noobed, taken to pheonix and everything removed, EXP, Honour, ship kills and gates. if they cheat again then total ip ban.

If you put into practice a "Cheat" in a casino for instance that cheat would probably be forceably removed with nothing in his hands and never allowed to go to a casino in the area ever again and there photos circulated to every casino in the country and black listed.

I think DO is extremely Lieniant on Cheaters but thats my opinion

 

Good point
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but Dark Orbit isn't a casino, is it? It was supposed to be a FREE BROWSER game. Unfortunately, players found out it wasn't a free game. Therefore, players put thousands of pounds into a free game. Then to make matters worse a small amount of players learnt how to 'cheat'. This went on and on. BTW I had quit around this time (when pp came out). If it was fair it should have been dealt with there and then. I remember coming back to the game and in chat asked; 'What is a bot?' to get a 30 day ban.
Anyway, from what I believe is quite a few players were so angry at the cheaters they decided to give the bot a try. Now this was probably the most irresponsible thing a law abiding player could have done. However, it was actually down to the negligance of the game providers not having the software to patch the game itself and prevent bot usage (after all it had been going on for years, which DO had been denying).

I think Dark Orbit should be held accountable for the flimsy security system of the game, the players have taken their responsibility. Besides, not once did I see or hear of the culprits being sued for designing of this so called 'bot programme' (Which claims to be made by Dark Orbit).

I put it to you and Dark Orbit; the extent of the stage 1 botting system on each individual player is unknown, therefore Dark Orbit team decided to sanction the players without a complete ban.

I personally would like to see the evidence against my account produced! If it comes out that I used a bot for less than two hours in my entire 8 years of play....Then how on earth is that fair?
...And no, I would never build another account because of such a misfortunate error made by the producers!

P.S
I have given Dark Orbit hundreds of £££ back since rebuilding PP from zero. I think that is a very expensive lesson learnt. I try my best not to break rules, in game and in the real world too...
Thanks.

ZÿИΛPS™

 

ZÿИΛPS™,im at last impressed to see u admitted to cheating bout time lol..i think they need to sell a chip with a auto lock which works at certain distance ie 1 which only works wen seeing the other player ,then they can get balance bac in game .also knowing they ave this can then write a programme that can measure the distance of a lock and speeds init redeye u muppet .>>bout time they made bigboys a npc so i can complete quests too noth said u all muppets n1 ZÿИΛPS™,for admitting truth respect that

 

Lol,
I see it as experimenting. Surely they kept the stage 1 because by the time they overhauled the bot, 95% of the server had used it? Makes sense. The other 5% are the ones who are still crying about cheaters 3 years later...

imho
If DO took care of the bot programmers none of this 'cheating' would have happened in the first place, would it?

 

I think a perfect punishment would be insta ban any previous botters as they have not learned their lesson after getting first warning, then any account they make from (certain info DO can easily see) is not allowed to play events and win prizes in game or real world.

 

crying you just gutted u got caught wd dark orbit >honesty best way 5 percent ..zynaps>muppet half ep lost and honour now thats funny

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Like I said before: Dark Orbit team made a mistake keeping players on in a stage 1 bot (imho they should have gotten rid of them) The question is why are those players still playing?....

Some players will relentlessly cheat...Stage 1 bots however, learnt their lesson....That's a FACT!

 

Sorry, can't stop myself writing this. Zynaps actually is on the right path here. Lets start from the beggining and view the facts first, shall we?

Facts that you may have forgotten:
1. Back in 2012 there were attempts to stop botting and every now and then a small accounts were closed (up to 2000 at a time in intervals between 1 week and 2 months)

2. December 2012 was the last bot banning wave before the big purge July 2013 with bot stage one (3 day ban, pp reset AND removing lf-4 and bo-2's upgrades). During that time the number of people botting was increasing rapidly. People were accusing each other and were banned for that in chat, but not in game. At the end every1 that was accusing the other was using the same autolock as him, but lost the fight just because he didn't pressed his Ctrl button first. If you think about it, you will remember that 2 well known locking players have accused each other in chat, I have countless such examples I can think of.

3. During the time mentioned in '2' there was a fix against x-2 botters - lordakia and streuner NPC points were removed due to rank points gaining. That affected the game for all players, not just the cheaters. At that time I wasn't cheating and I wasn't happy about it. Did bigpoint give some compensation to those that haven't used bot to gain rank? NO. Did it change anything? Yes, the bots moved from x-2 to 5-3. How did that make feel the users? Well, personally it gave me another reason to start botting and autolocking since darkorbit at the time was in deep silence about the problem at hand.

4. The program that allows you to autolock and bot is the same one.

5. After the first ban wave a lot of players stopped playing at all. I did too.

6. Currently on the maps are still people autolocking that haven't been banned. There are also a lot of game glitches and game lag that fool the people about that. Example:
I fly Goliath. Cloacked enemy flies by in Goliath. I lock him on one place, running on my fastest config. Same for him. Over time I see that his ship is moving much faster than mine and actually my lasers are out of range and I shoot to him off screen. He sees someone shooting him offscreen and calls 'autolock'. Who is to blame in this case?

Sorry, at the end this was a bit off-topic, so let me get back in it. Back in 2013 players were banned stage 1, because this was like 95% of the current players in the servers. They were banned for 3 days (I would call this a jail sentence. Don't blame me, bigpoint have decided the time to be 72 hours) and they were stripped of their PP and upgrades (Isn't that a bail?). In real life if you get out of jail and pay your bail you are free to go. Sure you have a record, but you did something wrong and you were punnished for it and that's it. Do you have to be punnished over and over for something that you did some time ago? How many times you have to be punished for it?

I got my bot 6 days before the stage 1 bans were given. Was I mad? Yes. Was I punished? Yes. What I did? I asked support to ban my account permanently since I have violated the rules. They refused. 2 years later I am back playing the game and I see that on certain events I cannot get rewards, however I am still able to pay for the game and purchase every single packet that dark orbit provides. I completely agree with zynaps on the matter - it is time stage 1 to go. Either lift it up from the accounts or ban the accounts in stage 1 permanently as every1 else is getting banned these days. The way I see it bigpoint should decide if they want to allow the players to continue playing or not. Stage 1 bans were supposed to be for warning if I recall correctly.

 

WELL SAID.
Thank you....

 

I'm really disappointed...I didnt even realize these were the rules...
Since the ban I have given DO in the range of £3,000 at least. I won the JPA but haven't got anything. If DO thought this problem was so big they would have sued the bot co for using the patented Dark Orbit emblem (years ago, before the 95% botted), surely it is a registered trade mark?... I aint no legal expert but I still have one last thought...
If nearly everyone cheated (which they did) then it is absolutely unfair to punish everyone. Dark orbit should be punished for flimsy security and turning a blind eye to prolific cheaters....Stage 1 players are innocent because they have not cheated for over two years (and will not ever again) after all their system is 100% fool proof (so they say).

££££'s For 2thousand pally stars..Thanks for punishing me Dark Orbit. Also, being branded a cheat is an insult!

 

Zynaps the stage 1 bot you refer too is made by private entities not Big Point itself therefore they can not in effect "remove it from existence", which is why your not suppose to use it in the first place.

 

Everyone was talking about the bots for years ...Dark Orbit denied it, why? Nowadays, they are proud to say they are still catching players...WHy I ask? They want to show us how clean they are , but they are ,or arent happy about these guys that still hang on in stage 1?....Yet still they now have introduced an instant ban...
I'm pretty sure there was a stage 2 and three before ....
The only reason I tried the bot was
1 To see if it actually worked...
...Everyone that day was moving in the same direction including ¬HULkMAN⌐ god rest his soul.
2. The forum rules were different, then as well, however, in that wave of capture, I think, Dark Orbit decided to change the rules.!!...

When I complained they just fobbed me off and said when I signed up I agreed to the T&c's & DO have the rights to change rules, as and when, they like....I rest my case.