[UI] The Leonov perk

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  1. Uhr_Drago

    Uhr_Drago User

    In light of the new vengeance design, I thought it would be nice as a Premium Member perk for any ship with 6 guns or less to enjoy the same benefits the leo has not only in the lower maps but in the uppers as well.

    Ships with 6 lasers or less gain x2 damage like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with 6 generator slots or less gain x2 generator boost like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 380 speed gains 380 speed like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 1,000 cargo gains 1,000 cargo like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 160,000 Hp gains 160,000 Hp like the Leonov ship.

    Now mind you, this is a perk for Premium members only.

    Please keep your answers and comments on topic and cram the attitude somewhere else.
    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2015
  2. Leonovs in the Uppers are like Nostromos in the Lowers and Uppers :eek:
     
  3. No to this idea leo was made for lowers and you can pretty much et goliath and vengi in auction for 10k credits
     
  4. Uhr_Drago

    Uhr_Drago User

    This is a new perk for the premium crowd without making the ships too overpowered. Besides comments like "Leo's belong in the lowers" is an old mentality in dire need of burying before it takes the game with it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2015
  5. MяF™

    MяF™ User

    The idea isn't exactly explained well :confused:

    Ships with less than 380 speed gain it.
    Ships with less than 1,000 cargo gain it.
    Ships with less than 160,000 Hp gain it.


    Gain what exactly? Also are you saying that a ship with say 350 speed will get a x2 generator boost giving them 700 speed? :eek:
     
  6. What's the point? Noobs running around with super speed in uppers..? And what about spearhead? It meets those requirements and would be the ultimate bane to normal vengis and any ship below that...
     
  7. MяF™

    MяF™ User

    I know...which is why i was asking the first poster to clarify what he meant as the idea seems terribly unbalanced.
     
  8. Yeah sorry quoted you accidentallu
     
  9. leo is or was a starter ship, and was used to defend lower maps with and should stay that way, but I dont see how this idea would help anybody or even bring "fun" to the table.
     
  10. Uhr_Drago

    Uhr_Drago User

    If a ship has a lower speed than 380 it gains the speed of 380, if the ship has 6 generator slots or less it gains x2 bonus to the generators just like the Leo.
    I really don't see the confusion, perhaps reading slower would help.

    Please elaborate why you think this would make any ship too overpowered for uppers as detailed with the post and why you believe it to be so, I need to see where your confusion is stemming from without stupid answers like "your post is confusing" I need you to explain in detail where your stumbling point is.
    If you can't see the point of this post, perhaps this idea isn't for you and as a premium perk you could have the option of disabling it.

    Thank you.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2015
  11. Even with these bonuses I could insta pop any of the credit ships.I don`t really see this as something to would help anybody, because any of these ships would pop just as fast even with your idea on them.

    Bigboy has 160k hp, and with bio it goes to 210,000 hp.which is the same as a leo in lowers, even if the ship is ufe its hp will fall fast and it doesnt even hit near the dmg of a leo so it dies just as fast with less offensive output.

    Now how would your idea calculate with speed? BB has 15 generators and base speed is 260. So boosted to 380 ,would all 15 generators add speed?That would be 380 + 150= 530+20% from promi = 636

    Nos has 10 generators speed is 340, so at 380 plus 100 speed from 10 generators and 20% from promerium thats 576 speed.But I could still insta pop it with a suicide and moth with havocs on.

    Lets go ahead and look at the piranha.
    its base speed is originally 360 but with 380 we get.380+80= 460+ 20% promi =552

    And in this idea the piranha would pass the leo in both power and speed.
    The reason I didnt bother with shields is even with 500k to max shield power with nothing but b02, id still pop any of these ships in no more than 3 combos because the hp is so low.

    Really hope you can grasp this concept and stop assuming your above people with what brain power you think you have.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2015
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  12. SauronL

    SauronL User

    it would be cool if i could do cubes with LEONOV power LOL ,
     
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  13. imapoofya

    imapoofya User

    Maybe not supposed to be but if you actually put more than a few seconds thought into this it is very clearly not a good idea.
     
  14. Uhr_Drago

    Uhr_Drago User

    I have revised the post to assist those too feeble minded to follow without this aid:

    In light of the new vengeance design, I thought it would be nice as a Premium Member perk for any ship with 6 guns or less to enjoy the same benefits the leo has not only in the lower maps but in the uppers as well.

    Ships with 6 lasers or less gain x2 damage like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with 6 generator slots or less gain x2 generator boost like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 380 speed gains 380 speed like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 1,000 cargo gains 1,000 cargo like the Leonov ship.
    Ships with less than 160,000 Hp gains 160,000 Hp like the Leonov ship.

    Now mind you, this is a perk for Premium members only.

    Gee thanx mod, the whole reply had to be removed not just the return fire to Bman?
    Fine I'll tell em again in a different way.

    Elaboration of the notions some hide behind would be preferable to any other type of negative comment anyone may have to offer and it may also help to reveal to them the weakness of their response. Please cram any attitude drenched fill in comments somewhere else.

    I couldn't help but notice all the calculations I have seen so far deal with the best case types of the ships available that were proven to not be over powered at all from the perspective of someone that can insta pop other players, well that just happens to be one of several thought out aspects of this thread.

    BTW....Your welcome.
     
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2015
  15. Not even going to bother. I have no words except if you want to get anywhere, have legit ideas, and accept feedback, no matter if it's positive or negative. You can't get what you want here, and can't act this rudely and expect people to respond positively to you or your ideas. Being a hypocrite also is typically not welcome. So really, get off your high horse and try being more open instead of insulting everyone and not changing a thing. You, by not accepting thoughts and opinions on your idea have gimped your own thread, turning it into an insult contest. Hell, if I could I would close this thread now due to your mannerisms. Yeah, I call people stupid sometimes, but its earned by what they say :D you however just aren't accepting our logical side on this.
     
  16. Uhr_Drago

    Uhr_Drago User

    If logic were present in the answers I would accept it, this thread is about a perk from an in game ship for the premium pack.

    The advantages were simple to read and understand and yet they had to be further simplified seemingly for most of you to fathom due to the responses given.
    The proof of the feeble minded mentality or act is there for all to see, obviously to reduce good ideas into flaming posts as a way to bury them.

    I don't understand how the mods and admins are so blind to this tactic and don't rid the forum of just such members that either are or just act like idiots that are too easily confused or are all too willing to defend outdated notions to be nothing but a pitfall in the forum for any ideas.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2015
  17. Bakjam

    Bakjam User

    This isn´t gonna work, it would make spearhead to OP.
     
  18. I'm gonna simplify it for you. It's not needed, it would make the spearhead and pirahna better than leonov unquestionably, and overall would be unfair for non premium by far, further killing the game.
     
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  19. _Atmcblz-

    _Atmcblz- User

    I didn't read all the posts but I did read the main one and I would like to point out that the leonov does not get x2 laser or generator slots, also i don't think that other ships should have a boost even if you are premium. I think the leonov is fine by itself.
     
  20. The leo gets double power to lasers and shields on ship.
     
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