[SC] GB1 Player dissatisfied

Fully agree with you.
To some people is hard to accept "start" period as beginer they wanna jump in PVP as fast as possible. When I start to play game I was shoot struner on x-8 map to buy bo2 shield, took me like 3 hours for get 1 bo2 I was shoot with lf2 which doing 100 dmg, now you have bit more expensive Spectral Lancer II which cost ONLY 300k credits and doing 145 dmg what is more than great you actually doing about 70% dmg as ufe on npc, if ufe can make 20k per hour you can make 14k. I know you need a lot of uridium to get on UFE point as I wrote above.

Isn't that DO isn't expensive anymore but have this middle equipments which help you make uridium faster couse doing more dmg on npc and you can get them for cheap.

 

1) Correct me if im wrong but something tels me that the time u spend in that game is enjoyable for the most part, while the 1k hours of darkorbit grind are not.
2) Admitting there are no UFE ships around to bore u and that u can deal with the new uber pirates then yes. Its just a shame that most people will use bots to do that since collecting palladium is (scientifically proved) the most annoying thing in the universe. (let alone 1k hours of it).
3) I did. Ok, but... why protegits? First, its very probable that u will be instapoped (by your own comp) if u try to do so. Secound, they are not even near being the most rentable (uri/life) alien. Also, 15M uri in prots means 937500 of them or 8.4375*10^10 hp to shoot. 1k hours are 3.6M seconds wich means u have to do 23437 dmg per secound in order to be able to do it. Now... i dont see anybody with a FE ship doing 20k dmg with x1 do u? Besides, again, i see very little players killing 900k prots "without help" . Moreover " but rabat for 2€ on week spend it all and get yourself UFE" u forgot the "for free" part.

1) What exactly is the problem with that? Plus i dont think they would mind if the "start period" was (much) less than 1k hours.
2) Back in the day bo2 was top notch equipment, u say u spent 3 hours to get one or a lf3. Can u tell me what ufe equipment can u get in 3 hours admitting u dont own an ufe ship (why would u need ufe equipment if u already were ufe...)?

 

1) If you don't enjoy grinding part you shouldn't play this game, its part of game and thats it.
2) Palladium is boring and waste of it, it just need time to people realize it.
3) x1 ammo can't get you UFE point in 1k hours but x2 or x3 can for sure, you can read more here if you maybe miss it @OP32 [IMPORTANT] this post is about ammo and uridium rotation.
Nothing in life is free, nothing in game is free, you will pay it with time or money. If you don't wanna give 2€ every 2-3 weeks for spend uridium you grind for that time, than you will spend few weeks more to get on point where you wanna be, simple.

Why do you qoute only words you wanna see, don't twist my words, point was it was hard back than, LF2 was uridium weapon same as LF3, you been shoot with MP1 laser which doing 60 dmg thats thats 40% of dmg LF3 got whats was best back than, now you have Spectral Lancer II which doing 145 dmg what is 72,5% of dmg best weapon can make and you are still not happy ?

I'm here on forum to try help people get on point to be competitive, not to push them away from game and say its bad, you will spend a lot of time bla bla bla, if you don't have anything helpful what may I miss or should be better option please don't qoute me in future, thanks.

 

1) Again, i dont mind brinding IF its reasonable.
2) We agree in that one
3) Im confused now, realy... And no there isnt only a few weeks more. That discount enables doing gates praticaly without losing uridium.

"Why do you qoute only words you wanna see, don't twist my words, point was it was hard back than, LF2 was uridium weapon same as LF3, you been shoot with MP1 laser which doing 60 dmg thats thats 40% of dmg LF3 got whats was best back than, now you have Spectral Lancer II which doing 145 dmg what is 72,5% of dmg best weapon can make and you are still not happy ?"

In wich way did i exacly twisted your words? Sure i didnt quote the intire text but i strongly belive what i quoted is note twisted by the laking text. And in the case u didnt get my point, what im trying to say is that geting, say, lf4 is way harder to get now than lf3 was before and as u know they played comparable roles in their own time frame. Thus i concluded that geting the top notch equipment was easyer before than now.
Sure the spectral laser is nice and im happy about it but that doesnt change the point i was trying to show. I get that they gave us a better base laser than we had before when compared with the top notch but it doesnt make up for the increased grind u need to do compared to before.

"I'm here on forum to try help people get on point to be competitive, not to push them away from game and say its bad, you will spend a lot of time bla bla bla, if you don't have anything helpful what may I miss or should be better option please don't qoute me in future, thanks."

Were did i pushed people away from the game? Because i dont like how it is now and i express what i feel? U know that is the porpose of this forums dont u? I would like u to quote a thread were some player asked for help and i went there to brag about the game. That bla bla bla as u name it is called giving an opinion and i have the right to do so, even more bc i always fundament mine.
Anyway, i tought i could just tell u why i dont agree with u in certain things u say explaining why but since it ofends u then i will never quote u again, however u can be sure i will never quit saying here what i think about the game.

 

You take those two comparisons whatever way you like.

The point is both of these games are free to play, darkorbit is pay2win while League is not.

The central point that I was making is that League of Legends, no matter what genre it is, is COMPLETELY free to play and doesn't ask for a penny, yet is doing 1000% better than pay2win Darkorbit, which is struggling just to stay alive.

The game is too expensive for what it's worth. In all honesty, there should be no video game that requires you to spend an obscene amount of money to play.

Don't even get me started on the bugs and the fact that DO is still running off of flash player for 10 years now.

"But muh game was less expensive years ago."

Yeah well before 2009 in the early stages of Darkorbit you only needed 100$ or less to get full FE and start fighting and having fun. Now ever since "Darkorbit Reloaded" that price has jolted up 10x that amount, where some players that I personally know have spent thousands just trying to get UFE.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what way you look at it and how much Darkorbit gives us in an event calender, this game is still pay2win and it is still too damn expensive for what it is.

 

If u look at that ur way, then i can say that both Darkorbit and League of Legends are f2p, but if u want to fully experience what the game can offer you, you have to pay or invest a lot of time and grind it out.

On league, unlocking all characters trough IP, will take you like 6 months of playing a lot everyday+you still need runes/runepages/etc.(Or u can pay A LOT of money to unlock them instantly)

Same for Darkorbit, u can play it for free, but if u want to fully experience what it can offer, u will also need to pay or to invest lots of time.

On both games u have some cheap things that u can buy with real money to make the grinding time shorter(rebate/bbdoubler/etc on darkorbit)(IP boosters /experience booster/etc on league of legend).



BTW: u can make ufe acc on DO easily with 400€+-.....not 10x 100$.....If u dont know how to... then u need to learn about how to spend ur uridium.

 

Maybe even less than 400€, you just need some for start roll it, once u start all you need is bit of time

 

You are missing the point though. League of Legends allows you to unlock said items through playing the game >ONLY<, spending money is completely optional.

While it would take a long time to do so, it surely takes a lot less longer than Darkorbit.

Darkorbit on the other hand does not have that option to pick what you want to buy good equipment with, better yet you can't even buy UFE equipment on Darkorbit, you have the buy gate spins which gives you a CHANCE to get gate parts in which you get gates with, WHICH IN TURN is only a CHANCE to get whatever equipment you want.

League of Legends, you simply click "Buy Champion/Runes" with enough points amassed from a few games. Simple enough.

Speaking of chance, every chest in League of Legends has a 98% chance of giving you a skin or champion shard, which you can use those to get free champions or skins(need I mention you can get chests and key fragments completely free by playing the game?)

Meanwhile in DO, you need to buy the Obsidian/red/blue/whatever booty box with real money with only a 10-20% chance of getting a skin you actually want, because you still have that chance of getting something completely useless like 10 booty keys or 12 seprom.

And I guarantee you it would take at least a year to get UFE by not spending an obscene amount of money. There are still people on my server that I have known since 2013 that are STILL trying to get UFE by not paying a dime. Not working out so well.

I acknowledge that DO is less expensive compared to 2013 or something, but it is still too expensive from when the game was in it's infancy stages, back then you could buy everything you need for 100 US Dollars or less and the game was doing JUST FINE until the LF4s and stuff came into play.

And then we get into the "worth the price" category. Why would I spend 400 US Dollars on this game that is barely operable and completely broken in almost every aspect when I can spend 400 US Dollars on League, a fully developed, well-known platform, that I can say that I have never encountered a cheater on, and bugs on that game are almost non-existent.

Better yet, you don't even have to spend money on League unless you see a skin you like, so it's honestly a rare occurance just to even find yourself buy skins (or generally anything) on League of Legends with real money. I can tell you that ever since I started playing League from 2012 or a super early date that I have NOT spent over 300 US Dollars on that game, while in Darkorbit I have spent at least 1,000 --And I'm not even a wallet warrior compared to everyone else, nearly every single person in the top 10 ranking has spent at least a few thousand dollars. You can buy a decent car for your 16 year old son or daughter with that money.

So I have to raise this once more: League of Legends and Darkorbit are both completely free to play, but Darkorbit is pay2win and is struggling just to survive. That is because it's too expensive for what it's worth.

 

You need 534.000 IP for unlock all champions, if you get around 80IP per win game which you play 40min with 5min of queue time its 5000 hours of play.
I think i said enough ...

 

But that is unnecessary to achieve in League, you can easily play without having all of the champions and runes and without spending that much time in it. This is simply because there is no actual permanent, long-term goal to achieve in League because it is a MOBA where all progress isn't saved from your previous games.

Meanwhile in Darkorbit, there are goals to achieve (getting LF4s, havocs, hercs, etc, and maybe even ranking) so there is a HUGE amount of playtime required. I personally have 4,000 hours logged -even though I don't play anymore- and everyone else I know has WELL over 5,000, the most I've seen is 21,000 hours of playtime and the average is 8,000-10,000 hours of playtime.

 

Hello,

Lets please remember this is for the discussion of Dark Orbit and not other games. While there may be other games that seem/are easier or more free, this is Dark Orbit a free-to-play game and you are able to purchase in-game currency for what ever the reason may be.

On a personal note, the game seems way easier than what it was years ago.

 

Well i guess u have ur point of view, and i wont be able to change it no matter what i say. Thats okay i guess....

 

MyBigi I agree with you, but I see forum as place where people will come for information, if they see posts like - you will never be able survive, they don't care about new players, game is to expensive and thing like that as new player you might start search for another game not knowing that there is a way to play this game cheap or free at one point. I personally thing post like that are unhealthy for community and game.
However I do think that brand new just made account MUST have lvl20 left side of skylab and lvl10 right side by default,
also 8 iris should be something you get
leonov and goliath
10m credits
50k uridium
100k x2
30k x3
30k sab
with credits you can get Spectral Lancer II and Fusion Shield II.
Also there must be few more quests so you can without exp booster after finish quests get on lvl17 just by doing quests, this are basic things.

P.S. if UFE kill you don't provocate by repair on portal and run out again than cry he kill me over and over, logout on 1-2min he will not waste boosters and wait on 1 kill or just change map, UFE also get bully by UFE when doing something with low HP or its 1vs2 fight.

 

Just get spectrum, ufe wont botter shooting you.

 

Lol spectrum, by the time they would be able to craft/bid spectrum they already figured out those things some player were pointed and left. Also spectrum without shield mechanics/engennering (the last one) is not good enouth to deal with moth+300k dmg. Moreover they are going to nerf it soon due to popular demand from ufes.