[SC] Magmadrill vs lvl 16 LF4

Hello,

Could anyone please tell me if the damage of Magmadrill has been fixed?

According to this video attached it seems that lvl 16 LF4 did more damage than Magmadrill.



Thank you.

PS: Apologies if this has already been answered.

 

You get 5% extra damage with the Magmadrill over the LF-4 and with the "misses" you will not see much of a difference in them. There is about 10 points damage per MD more damage so a UFE (45 MD's) will give 450 extra damage, like I say not much difference. I would definitely not assemble any Upgraded LF-4's to the NEW Enhanced LF-4's as it is not worth it. But the non upgraded LF-4's would be perfect as you get the damage without the Uridium cost to get maximum damage.

 

I like that save U but to get lev 16 for your pet and drones are the right thing to do ?
Ask the girl and send love to you .

 

Thanks for your reply.

Im just wondering if they fixed it because it says its more damage but in the video is clearly proven that the damage is bugged or incorrect for magmadrill.

 

Level 16 upgrades on drones are worth it yes. Not quite sure what u mean on pet.

Also please make another thread if you have your own questions. Thanks.

 

Just to clarify, the Magmadrill LF-4 does 5 as opposed to 5% extra damage to other players. This makes the difference between lvl 16 LF-4 and Magmadrill even smaller however.

As you can imagine, the likelyhood that the Magmadrill LF-4s will hit harder than the Lvl 16 LF-4s is higher than the opposite. It just so happens that since the damage increase is so insignificant with the Magmadrill LF-4, the probability that the Magmadrill LF-4s will hit harder than the Lvl 16 LF-4s is not that much more than the probability that the Lvl 16 LF-4s will hit harder than the Magmadrill LF-4s. (Blehhh words )

Spoiler: More in-depth explanation

Lets assume that your damage is calculated linearly;
YOUR_DAMAGE = BASE_DAMAGE x AMMO x PILOT_BIO x SHIP_DESIGN x FORMATION x SEPROM x BOOSTERS

And that you are using UCB-100 laser ammo (400%); Bounty Hunter (12%); Surgeon (6%); Drill drone formation (20%); Seprom on lasers (60%) and Double boostered (20%).

Note: Below, I have pre-calculated the BASE_DAMAGE based upon the type of LF-4 with Spartan equipped (10%), Lvl 16 Drones (6% on drones).

Lvl 1 LF-4 (LASER_DAMAGE = 200):
MAX_DAMAGE = 7,894 * 4 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.2 * 1.6 * 1.2 = 86,042
Range of Damage: 64,532 to 86,042

Lvl 16 LF-4 (LASER_DAMAGE = 212):
MAX_DAMAGE = 8,336 * 4 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.2 * 1.6 * 1.2 = 91,204
Range of Damage: 68,403 to 91,204

Magmadrill LF-4 (LASER_DAMAGE = 217):
MAX_DAMAGE = 8,532 * 4 * 1.12 * 1.06 * 1.2 * 1.6 * 1.2 = 93,355
Range of Damage: 70,016 to 93,355

Since your actual damage varies between 75% and 100% of your MAX_DAMAGE, we can clearly see here that - potentially - a Lvl 1 LF-4 could hit more than a Magmadrill LF-4 (e.g. if the LF-4s hit 85,000 and the Magmadrills hit 75,000).

However the probability of the higher level lasers hitting more is... more!

Spoiler: Proof of Values

Average Damage:
Lvl 16 LF-4 = 79,804
Magmadrill LF-4 = 81,686

Range of Damage:
Lvl 16 LF-4 = 22,801
Magmadrill LF-4 = 23,339

Since if the damage is the same, the chance either laser will do more damage than the other is 50%, we can assume that the base case is... 50%. To calculate the probability that one laser will hit harder than the other, is:
50% + ((YOUR_AV_DAMAGE - THEIR_AV_DAMAGE) / YOUR_RANGE) * 100

E.g.
Probability of Lvl 16 LF-4 hitting more than Magmadrill LF-4:
= 50% + ((79,804 - 81,686) / 22,801) * 100
= 41.7%
= ~42%

Probability of Lvl 1 LF-4 hitting more than Lvl 16 LF-4 = ~29%
Probability of Lvl 1 LF-4 hitting more than Magmadrill LF-4 = ~20%

Probability of Lvl 16 LF-4 hitting more than Lvl 1 LF-4 = ~71%
Probability of Lvl 16 LF-4 hitting more than Magmadrill LF-4 = ~42%

Probability of Magmadrill LF-4 hitting more than Lvl 1 LF-4 = ~80%
Probability of Magmadrill LF-4 hitting more than Lvl 16 LF-4 = ~58%

I hope the more in-depth explanation helped you to understand why you cannot notice much of a difference between the Lvl 16 LF-4s and Magmadrill LF-4s and even why, on a good proportion of occasions, the Lvl 16 LF-4s hit more than Magmadrills!
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Oh thanks Jinx for taking the time to reply, I finally understand.

Mods please close this thread. Thank you.

 

Closing as requested.

Enjoy.