[SC] Magmadrill vs lvl 16 LF4

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  1. AVIT

    AVIT User

    In reply to the closed thread ,,when you exchange a magmadrill what is the point if its not exchange a lvl 1 lf4 ..support do not answer and give everyone cockahoop answer.

    I want to know what lvl lf4 is exchanged for a magmadrill and have a few questions

    1/if a magmadrill is useless compared to a lvl 16 lf4 (as it seemed to be said in previous thread) Why did the devs make them?

    2/Or is the exchange for a lvl 1 lf4? and then it is usefull?

    NEEDS clearing up i think because no one seems to know why if it exchanging a lv 16 lf4

    Support aint a clue either !
    AVIT
     
  2. Deter

    Deter Board Administrator Team Darkorbit

    Hello AVIT,

    The LF-4 Enhancement faq' states;

     
  3. Jinx-GB2

    Jinx-GB2 User

    When you craft a Magmadrill LF-4 (or any of the 3), the assembly system will only use a lvl 1 LF-4. If all of your LF-4s are lvl 2, for example, you will not be able to craft one of the new LF-4s.

    1. I didn't state that the new LF-4s are useless, I simply stated that the difference is small. For the end-game (UFEs; UUFEs) they are an improvement and something to aim for (otherwise what would they/we aim for!).

    2. Once you are of a good level, and upgrading LF-4s is a worthy use of your Uridium, upgrading an LF-4 to a new LF-4 is arguably cheaper than upgrading it to Lvl 16. (Especially as though the items needed come as you just play the game, doing daily quests etc.).
     
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  4. AVIT

    AVIT User

    Deter thank you for clearing that up ,,why cannot support give an answer like that !
    the confusing thing for me and many is the enhanced lf4 1 ,why not just simply say the magma ,hypers etc are the enhanced ones supposedly ?but no where near as good as a level 16 lf4 .

    I must add also ,this directed to other players ,in my case the exchange is random as i have experienced LF4 lvl6 dissapearing from ship when exchanging ,,but yh im allways picked on as a special case .
     
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  5. Jinx-GB2

    Jinx-GB2 User

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean here but the enhanced LF-4s are the same as lvl 16 LF-4s but with additional damage/hp in certain cases (see spoiler for details).

    Lvl 16 LF-4 = 212 base damage
    Magmadrill LF-4 = 212 base damage (+5 extra for PvP [217])
    Paritydrill LF-4 = 212 base damage (+5 extra for PvE [217])
    Hyperplasmoid LF-4 = 212 base damage (+0.5% extra HP)

    Also, I haven't heard of a non-lvl 1 LF-4 being selected for the crafting when a lvl 1 LF-4 is available. A few things to answer:
    1. Did you have any lvl 1 LF-4s at the time?
    2. Did you have any Lvl 1 LF-4s off your ship at the time?

    If you answer "No." to both of those then we have a bug :( I will investigate in the meantime.
     
  6. To clear things up;
    1. Comparing the Level 16 LF-4 to the Enhanced you will not see any difference (as I tried to explain in the other thread)
    2. Crafting them saves you the Uridium to UPGRADE the LF-4 to Level 16 but gives the power of a FULLY Upgraded LF-4
    3. Crafting will use the LOWEST LEVEL LF-4 in the INVENTORY and it is stupid to Craft UPGRADED LF-4's even though the system WILL
    Confusion may come from the statement, "Have an Available LF-4" as this could be just the Basic LF-4 being owned or that it has to be in the OPEN (unequipped) Inventory, but that you can NOT use an already Enhanced LF-4 to create a different type. IF using the 100% chance with the Premium, Rebate, and Upgrade Bonus Hour Discounts just 1 LF-4 costs 54,731 Uridium to get Level 16 (or 104250 without any discounts).
     
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  7. test020

    test020 User

    1 - its useless for PVE, for PVP its the best since it's meant for that...

    2 - as said it uses the lowest level lf4 avaliable because some people would use their lvl16 lf4 "by mistake" and bother support...
     
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