I made a program that tells you how many spins you need to build a gate,could I release it in forum?

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  1. R9390

    R9390 User

    Hello,

    (I know it's long, but please read :))

    I have been working on a program that spins galaxy gate energies to tell you how many spins you need, on average, to build a gate of your choice - you can even choose to start the gate with a few parts already built, if you let's say have 12 parts for Kappa or so. Last night I completely recreated the program in 6 hours and it is now fully functional. An example output for Kappa gate:

    [lots of output here telling you that you got ammo, xenomit, etc.]
    Multiplied a multiplier; generated 2 gate parts: 44, 91; Parts generated so far: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120; Total parts: 120/120

    It took 1509 spins to build Kappa 16 starting with 0 parts.

    Your average amount of spins to build a Kappa gate has been calculated. Information below:

    Minimum spins taken: 1 469 Energies
    Minimum uridium price: 146 900 U.
    Minimum uridium premium price (5% off): 139 555 U.
    Minimum uridium rebate price (25% off): 110 175 U.
    Minimum uridium premium and rebate price (30% off): 102 830 U.

    Average spins taken: 1 713 Energies
    Average uridium price: 171 300 U.
    Average uridium premium price (5% off): 162 735 U.
    Average uridium rebate price (25% off): 128 475 U.
    Average uridium premium and rebate price (30% off): 119 910 U.

    Maximum spins taken: 2 050 Energies
    Maximum uridium price: 205 000 U.
    Maximum uridium premium price (5% off): 194 750 U.
    Maximum uridium rebate price (25% off): 153 750 U.
    Maximum uridium premium and rebate price (30% off): 143 500 U.

    End of program. Press ENTER to END the program (will close window if executing from CMD or other command lines)...​

    The program is, as seen above, fully text based. Currently Alpha, Beta and Gamma are not available, however with the foundation I already have, it will be short work. I will also add Kronos, where it will spin all the gates needed and tell you total spins (with a "Kronos Day" option).

    The program seems to be accurate to real values - it has been given a 13% chance to get a galaxy gate part, and all multipliers have been calculated correctly. It assumes you spin energies x1 and use multiplier every time when you get one. Results seem to be consistent with all gates, including kappa - the average, lowest and highest values never stray more than 100 energies away from each other.

    I personally find this extremely useful. I would like to know huw much uridium I need to build a gate, let's say a Kappa - I would therefore expect to use ~170k uri, however save up 200k+ uri just in case it's not a lucky one.

    Once I finish this program off and make it into an executable file (GG.exe) would like to release this program to the forum for people to use to help out. (I also have made many other programs, such as skill point calculator - how many logdisks you need to reach a certain skillpoint; a damage calculator; etc.)

    Obviously .exe files can be dangerous - let's say someone made a program that latches on to another program, google chrome, and saves all your passwords and you would never even found out.

    Which is why I am asking if there is a way to prove that the program is not malicious and if, once this is proven, moderators would allow me to release a download link to the forum?
     
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  2. TheShadows

    TheShadows User

    Man this would be really useful. Great job :D. Mods please look into this :)
     
  3. Dynabi

    Dynabi User

    Kinda takes away the fun of spinning doesnt it?
     
  4. R9390

    R9390 User

    Thanks for the support, means a lot :)

    Fun? I wouldn't classify it as fun.

    Either way, it doesn't - it just predicts what you will get, doesn't tell you.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Jul 8, 2016
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  5. Not sure why we need to know this it is what it is, if you want a certain gate you will have to spend whatever it takes to build it. I think the guide will only give others something to complain about!!! they think cause you say it can be built with that amount that it is guaranteed but it is not. I have noticed that when they gate spins are discounted depending on the discount it takes longer to build. For instance when the gate spins were discounted for me to 4k uri per 100 spins it took longer to build certain gates did i complain? NO and why because it will take the same amount of uri to build a gate just more spins which just gives the user more ammo and log discs. Enjoy that's my perspective.
     
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  6. R9390

    R9390 User

    I believe that you are wrong my friend. Firstly, the amount that it will take to spin a gate is a chance - it will rarely be the same, and can greatly fluctuate from its core value of 13% - you get a 50% chance to get heads on a coin, but some times you will get more tails than you will get heads.

    It just happened so that it took longer to build during discounted spin prices. Due to confirmation bias, you think that DO made it purposefully harder to build the gate so that the price is still the same and they make it seem cheaper to the players, however I am sure they do not mind with such little things if it will not bring them great profit.

    Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. In other words, you look for something that confirms your suspicion (of having to use more spins during discount days) without giving thought that something else might be happening (you having less luck).

    As for the players, the program clearly states maximum, minimum and average values, along with stating that they ARE minimum, maximum and average values - even if players were illogical enough to think that the program average value will mean they will certainly build the gate in that amount of spins (disregarding that this is chance that we are talking about), they will still see that it can take many more or many less spins to build the gate. And also nowhere do I state that the program will fully predict your chances.

    Basically, stop nitpicking mate. Your argument is invalid.
     
  7. Instead of the program being published, as I have seen many people ask "how many spins to build 'x' gate" I would prefer to see the information calculated placed in a table and then posted in the FAQ's for easy reference (again this would have to carry a disclaimer) and it is a reference only as many factors are involved to building the gate, number of people using the G G M, number of parts already collected, number of spins being used, your luck (lol), and whether free spins or Uridium paid. But having a table of high and low with an average shown with like 100 gates each would be nice to see.
    I have seen people state they had better odds of getting parts from Uridium purchased spins than from the Free spins. But then this is all supposition anyway.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2016
  8. R9390

    R9390 User

    Yes I thought of that - but the program can also tell you things based on personal variables, i.e. if you have full Nanohull or not, how many parts you start the gate with, if you want to build kronos/if you are building it on kronos day, how many parts you start alpha, beta and gamma, etc.

    Also, the variables you stated above - number of people using the GGM and whether free are using free spins or uridium - I highly doubt these are at play. I really don't think DO care about that stuff that much.
     
  9. Average uridium premium and rebate price (30% off): 119 910 U.

    Something wrong with your program if it takes 120k uridium to build kappa in average when for me it takes 75 - 80k uridium with same discount.

    So this is "auto clicker" that also makes log of the received rewards. Is it allowed to use third party program to build your gates? Kind of sounds like using a bot.
     
  10. Deter

    Deter Board Administrator Team Darkorbit

    Hello,

    Using or promoting the use of illegal programs, playing the game in an unfair manner and all other forms of cheating are against the Terms & Conditions.

    Closing.

    -=Take Care=-
     
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